Bigfoot

Erniedytn · #1 02-26-2008, 09:13 AM

Ok so I normally wouldn't have done this but I watched a National geographic special about it last night. I want to start by saying that up until a few years ago I did believe that Bigfoot was out there. Then I watched this program on The History Channel called Is It Real: Bigfoot. It focused on the Patterson-Gimlin film, which is one of two videos out there of Bigfoot. This guy came forward and said that he and his buddy hoaxed the whole thing. At first I was like "Yeah whatever dude...you're just looking for publicity".....then they showed him walking around his front yard and dude walked and acted just like the "bigfoot" in the film. This was when I was like "Ok....Bigfoot is bullshit".

Fast forward to last night. New show about bigfoot; this time they got several scientists involved. There was a forenzic fingerprint expert, a DNA scientist, a guy that studies nature sounds, and some dude that tracks the paths of wild animals over a long period of time.

The finger print dude was the most interesting. He took finger/footprint samples from every species of ape known to man, and then he took prints from all of the bigfoot casts made over the years. After the comparison he stated that the style of prints found on the casts DO NOT match any of prints he took from the apes, nor does it match human prints. He said that they do however have "ape like characteristics". He said he would stake his whole career on this and believes that there is indeed some species of ape living on the North American continent.

They gave the DNA guy hair samples from a plaster cast they had of Bogfoot's lower body. These guys set up this big circle of mud in the woods and put some apples in the middle. They came back the next day and found an imprint in the mud of an enourmos thigh, lower leg, achilles tendon and heel. They made a plaster of it, removed some hair samples, and sent it out for study. Unfortunately he couldn't get a solid reading on it, so that came out inconclusive.

They gave the nature sounds guy a supposed recording of Bigfoot howling in the woods. He listened and concluded that the sound was definately made by some sort of large primate......humans included.

The guy who tracks the movements of wild animals took all of the recorded bigfoot sightings and plugged them into his program. He concluded that the whole bigfoot phenomena is either a really big hoax played out over the last 20 years, or there is indeed a species of ape living in North America. He says the patterns of movement coincide with this.

So, to say the least, this triggered my ineterest in Bigfoot again. I am still very skeptical about it though. I look at it like this; If there was a species of ape living in North America, and is as large as they say....wouldn't we have discovered it by now? Wouldn't there be carcasses to be found?

Thoughts anyone?

fdd2blk · #2 02-26-2008, 09:17 AM

maybe it nests in the center of the earth.

human8 · #3 02-26-2008, 09:46 AM

Osama Bin Laden Is Big foot, thats why they can't find him! I think there is a resource online of sightings, seriously. I believe. And I use bigfoot guano from their secret grotto to feed my trees. Redwood Diesel.

srsnow · #4 02-26-2008, 09:55 AM

i use to watch stuff about big foot and i heard they barry their dead thats why people don't find bodies.

Erniedytn · #5 02-26-2008, 10:05 AM

This is what I was talkin about on the Patterson-Gimlin film:

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After nearly forty years of secrecy, the truth behind the world-famous Roger Patterson Bigfoot film has been revealed. The man who actually wore the costume and played the role of Bigfoot in the film has been located and has made a full confession. Moreover, the husband and wife team who made and sold the Bigfoot costume that Patterson used to fake his movie have also confessed, and several other important eyewitnesses have come forth with corroborating evidence. In a new book, The Making of Bigfoot: The Inside Story (Prometheus Books, 2004), Seattle-based author Greg Long reveals details of the hoax, the result of a six-year investigation which also clandestinely involved author Kal Korff.

Exposing Roger Patterson's 1967 Bigfoot film hoax: new revelations shed light on a world-famous, much-debated film supposedly showing a Bigfoot creature | Skeptical Inquirer | Find Articles at BNET.com

Erniedytn · #6 02-26-2008, 10:08 AM

Here is the other film of Bigfoot; this one has yet to be disproven. If you pay close attention when it reappears out from behind the hill, you will notice that he gets a litter taller almost instantly. Supposedly this is due to the Bigfoot placing it's young on it's shoulders.

YouTube - Bigfoot Field Guide Informational Video-Memorial Day Footage

overfiend · #7 02-26-2008, 10:10 AM

i guess its possable they still keep finding new things all the time in the sea and rain forest. maybe bigfoot is a master at stealth a lot of us have got away at stealthy outdoor grows for years why is it hard to believe something could go unnoticed forever

now the skunk ape i dont believe in

Sirius · #8 02-26-2008, 10:20 AM

Bigfoot is prolly real. Most legends/myths have some truth to them, and with the evidence over the years that has been collected they are almost certainly real. Hair, footprints, video footage, still photography and the such have all been taken. The evidence is overwhelming that something exists in the woods we dont know about. It might not be an ape or ape-man of any type. Just because stupid fucks pull hoaxes or the like does not mean that everyone that witnesses these events do. In fact most people who witness any unknown object/being/creature are sane, rationale, intelligent people who are really seeing something they do not know of or understand. Their interpretation of what they have seen can often conflict with evidence, and this causes people to disbelieve their stories.

Also, just because a scientist says something doesn't mean you should take it as fact. There are tons of shitty scientist who do incomplete, non-comprehensive work. Do your own investigation into the matter, and believe what you find your conclusions to be. You shouldn't go off what someone else says

anyway im baked, lol. peace.

Erniedytn · #9 02-26-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by overfiend

now the skunk ape i dont believe in

Never heard of that...so I googled it. This is what I found:

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The Skunk Ape is said to be a large hairy, bipedal mammal that calls the Florida Everglades home. They have (allegedly) been spotted as far north as Tallahassee and as far south as Lostman's River. Large adult males are said to weigh in excess of 450 lbs and stand 6 to 7 feet tall with reddish or dark brown hair similar in appearance to an orangutan or gorilla. Some believe that this biped is part of the same species as the famed Bigfoot. A handful of sightings have also happened in the Western US, including Simi Valley, CA. In recent months, several sightings have been reported near the Withlacoochee River in Brooks County, GA, between Quitman and Valdosta. The smell of a Skunk Ape has been reported to be similar to rotten eggs or Hydrogen Sulfide.

Skunk ape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The attached picture is supposedly a Skunk Ape taken in Myakka FL...not too far from me.

Erniedytn · #10 02-26-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Also, just because a scientist says something doesn't mean you should take it as fact. There are tons of shitty scientist who do incomplete, non-comprehensive work. Do your own investigation into the matter, and believe what you find your conclusions to be. You shouldn't go off what someone else says

I would if I had some evidence to examine!!!! This subject is like aliens and conspiracy theories......you can't prove it's real, but you can't disprove it either. I would like to believe what the scientist says over some guy who claims to have seen Bigfoot and that's it. So far this is the only scientific evidence I have seen produced. I mean...like you say...not ALL of these people are crazy or hoaxsters...there has to be something to this, but whether or not it's actually "Bigfoot" is hard to say.