Hey, Oly! I wasn't talking shit, I was just pointing to the past to attempt to come up with something effective to help handle CWE. I just read in your response to Heis why I haven't seen you around, and I can certainly understand. I hope all is well with you, hope things with the university and/or your career are running smoothly...
I give + rep for good answers to my questions and if you give me rep, plz leave your name so I can rep you back and if YOU DONT LIKE AMERICA YOU CAN GEHHHT OUUUUUTTTTTTTTT!!!!
No, I didn't mean to imply your attacks were random but when you made them, mostly against sativahigh, you didn't pretend you were having a rational argument with him, you just called a spade a spade. Trolling was probably not a good choice of words but I was trying to distinguish you from trolling chief, trying to limit comparisons.
Nah, you mad, MP even noticed you snapped lol And believing that some being created this universe is being religious? Since when? I do believe the big bang is the most logical explanation for creation but a ball of hydrogen and helium (or w.e) doesnt just form out of nowhere, at one point there had to be absolutely nothing, nothing evolves into more nothing. And wheres proof that this being created science?... damn... let me think... OH YEAH! science EXISTS! lol what a stupid question. The last one is a stupid question as well, Im sure you can think of a few things that your absolutely against that makes you go back to you tiny confined box of reality that is science =).
The no life skeptics dwelling in the spirituality forum questioning every belief that doesnt comply with atheistic science are calling me the troll... OH the irony lol. Pads pointless dream is to live in a world full of atheists lol that says a lot about the intentions of you skeptics. Sure you could not give a fuck about what other people think, but wheres the fun in that when you can feel superior by questioning everything theists believe in? lol egotistic douchebags that always feel they have something to prove, what a miserable way to live.
A world full of reasonable/logical athiests... hmmmm, i bet it would be paradise compared to the world we have right now... full of deluded theologians. We non believers have nothing to prove, as we have time and time again disproved your falacious type of thinking... which resulted merely from the invironment you grew up in, the culture... and especially how you are raised as a child, and from my perceptions, still a child. Attention seeking behaviors, i understand what kinds of adults breed this type of behavior, and i am very sad you must experience this torment. I only hope that someday you can get out on your own, and think for yourself.
"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astounding universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy."
- Carl Sagan
Actually my parents arent religious or spiritualists at all, never once did they talk about "god" throughout my childhood. I asked my dad when I was 8 if he believed in "god" and he awkwardly said yes, awkwardly because he doesnt like talking about such things as I found out later. I only know my mom believes in "god" because she takes part in Native culture more than the rest of us but she never talks about the subject either. I grew up thinking for myself that there had to be a higher power because the big bang evolving from nothing just sounded stupid to me. Even then I didnt really care about the subject, only after I started listening to Joe Rogan two years ago and his guests and their deep insights on life I started exploring spirituality more. Then I experienced things that most would consider bat shit crazy and that elevated me further to the truth. Then I found myself here, thinking there would be more like minded people talking about spirituality, but I just found a bunch of trolls that dont like people viewing the world differently then they do so they feel compelled to tell theists whats what to inflate their ego and give their life meaning =).
Taking others ideas and attempting to make them your own will do nothing but keep you further from your true self. Further and further from complete and utter honesty with oneself... although it is understandable to me, the fear of being completely honest with the self is too much for most. I think sadness is too much of a word, i think i feel more so sorry for the psychological battle one must constantly wage on oneself in order to hold onto beliefs.
The cool thing about ideas, is that they change all the time... and no one claims certainty to them, so no one gets offended when an idea is brought upon the scrutinies of questions and doubts.
"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astounding universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy."
- Carl Sagan
If you listened to those insights you would not call them wrong, hes not claiming any spiritual fact with them, hes pretty much explaining the world and how beautiful and how fucked up it is in his own insightful way. Expanding on those and applying them to spirituality is not lying to yourself, not in the way that saying lucid dreaming is nothing special is lying to yourself...
Since religion started.
But an infinitely more complex god does, apparently.
It didn't form out of nowhere. It formed when Hydrogen and Helium atoms collected in the vacuum of space because of gravity and started a fusion reaction. Pretty simple and straightforward if you actually took the time to learn about it. People who have don't make ignorant claims like "it doesn't just form out of nowhere..."
OK, I say there was another god that came in and created science. His name was Ted. Ted the god. You know how I know?
... science exists.
What is a better method of discerning reality than using consistent logic and reason?Yet you keep coming back for more. Who actualy has something to prove, hmm? As if you're fooling anyone.
Well shit, case closed! Forget about 400 years of scientific breakthroughs. Chief numb nuts concludes it's too confusing for his simple mind, so that must mean it's false. Is that a candid admission you're a virgin because you find sex confusing too?
lmao, I bet they tore you apart over at the Rogan board, didn't they? That's probably why you're here, only to find out this place is much more logical and less tolerant of bullshit.
Here, these are probably much more up your alley;
http://www.spiritboard.net/
http://www.openenlightenment.com/
http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/
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