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    Quote Originally Posted by tyler.durden View Post
    That tactic seemed effective (at least for a while) with Oly. We could reinstate that tradition of, 'Chief says the darndest things' that Heis originated. But letting his crazy, unsubstantiated ideas run amok on this forum doesn't sit well with me for some reason. It's like watching a tumor get larger, and I'm afraid it may infect some less critical readers. What to do, what to do...
    Oly was different. He wasn't apologetic for his trolling. He never really pretended to have the desire to have a dialogue, except in a few instances, and preferred to just attack atheists. The funny thing is he got along with me for some reason.

    I think from now on we can just post pics of


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    Quote Originally Posted by mindphuk View Post
    Oly was different. He wasn't apologetic for his trolling. He never really pretended to have the desire to have a dialogue, except in a few instances, and preferred to just attack atheists. The funny thing is he got along with me for some reason.

    I think from now on we can just post pics of

    I remember that. You seem to be the last person he'd bond with I like your innovation of posting this pic, but I'm wondering if it will somehow shame him, or if it will just feed him further. He's like a Walker; it doesn't seem he requires any sustenance to keep going and the results are always bad...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Walkin Eagle View Post
    I never said I opposed science, angry child (MadBro?).
    Clearly you do, every post you submit is in opposition to established science. IOW, you're a retard. Mad, not at all. Entertained at your stupidity, absolutely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Walkin Eagle View Post
    If a being created this world then that being created science too, they go hand in hand.

    Yeeeeah... You're not religious...


    How would you know if a being created this world it also created science? Where is your evidence for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Walkin Eagle View Post
    Of course science plays an essential part in everyday life. I oppose your view on reality thats based on science. Science is just a little box that gets bigger throughout time because it discovers more and its never gunna stop getting bigger, but its stupid to confine yourself in that little box. Like it or not, science is in its infancy and you will forever remain a mental infant if you dont step out of the box and use your imagination.
    What, pray tell, is outside this limited box of science? Enlighten me!

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    "Water is two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen. What if someone says, “Well, that’s not how I choose to think about water.”? All we can do is appeal to values. And if he doesn’t share those values, the conversation is over. If someone doesn’t value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove they should value it? If someone doesn’t value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    "Water is two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen. What if someone says, “Well, that’s not how I choose to think about water.”? All we can do is appeal to values. And if he doesn’t share those values, the conversation is over. If someone doesn’t value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove they should value it? If someone doesn’t value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?"


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    So simply explained. That shit is getting saved.

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    "Good refutations of arguments try to undermine the accuracy, relevance, fairness, completeness, and sufficiency of reasons given to support a conclusion. One of the more common tactics of those who can't provide a good refutation of an argument is to divert attention away from the argument by calling attention to something about the person who made the argument. Rather than criticize a person’s premises or reasoning, one asserts something about the person’s character, associations, occupation, hobbies, motives, mental health, likes or dislikes."

    Can you guys imagine a mentality where ad hominem was your single line of defense, and it satisfied you? If you answered even the accusation of using ad hominems, with an ad hominem. How do you suppose it feels to be a one trick pony?

    "Attacking a person, rather than the person’s position or argument, is usually easier as well as psychologically more satisfying to those who divide the world into two classes of people—those who agree with them and are therefore good and right, and those who disagree with them and are therefore evil and wrong."

    Obviously, this approach to the world can not sustain happiness for long. A person such as this has not had to deal with the true hardships of life, such as watching a friends casket being lowered into the ground. This type of person has never had to deal with the pain of true betrayal, of love enjoyed and lost, or had the satisfaction of ever doing something noble purely for the benefit of others. A person such as this simply has not been exposed to life, has not learned to discipline themselves for the sake of their inner harmony. If a person does not grow as they get older, they end up living in a world where everyone is against them for some reason or another, nobody can be trusted and all understanding of life is clouded in a confusing haze of inconsistency. In this situation a person is left to depend on themselves, but find themselves undependable, without fortitude. This person confuses immediate gratification with happiness until the day when petty indulgence is not enough and true happiness has been left in the detritus of the burnt bridges and burned out relationships of the past.

    "Achievement of your happiness is the only moral purpose of your life, and that happiness, not pain or mindless self-indulgence, is the proof of your moral integrity, since it is the proof and the result of your loyalty to the achievement of your values." --Ayn Rand
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    wtf? Im gone for awhile and people start talking shit?

    funny...


    Quote Originally Posted by tyler.durden View Post
    That tactic seemed effective (at least for a while) with Oly. We could reinstate that tradition of, 'Chief says the darndest things' that Heis originated. But letting his crazy, unsubstantiated ideas run amok on this forum doesn't sit well with me for some reason. It's like watching a tumor get larger, and I'm afraid it may infect some less critical readers. What to do, what to do...
    I give + rep for good answers to my questions and if you give me rep, plz leave your name so I can rep you back and if YOU DONT LIKE AMERICA YOU CAN GEHHHT OUUUUUTTTTTTTTT!!!!

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    wtf? DUde, i actually enjoyed our discussions on topics of evolution that I am very intrigued by... If you call standing up for what I believe in trolling, you are just as fucked up as chief whatever... and whats up with that picture? I do not know internet memes...

    my so called "attacks" were not random "attacks"... I do not just sit there and watch people bash what me and others on here share as views. I will continue to stand up for my beliefs...

    I should have known about your two faces man...


    Quote Originally Posted by mindphuk View Post
    Oly was different. He wasn't apologetic for his trolling. He never really pretended to have the desire to have a dialogue, except in a few instances, and preferred to just attack atheists. The funny thing is he got along with me for some reason.

    I think from now on we can just post pics of

    I give + rep for good answers to my questions and if you give me rep, plz leave your name so I can rep you back and if YOU DONT LIKE AMERICA YOU CAN GEHHHT OUUUUUTTTTTTTTT!!!!

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    Oly!! Good to see you. For what it's worth I always saw in you the desire to understand. You have conviction in your beliefs and that conviction came from asking questions and listening to opposition. No one changed your mind, but wouldn't you say conversations became much more meaningful when we agreed on proper conduct? Sometimes you said the darnedest things, and other times you spoke from your heart with honesty. Those are the times we listened, and those are the posts I miss when you're not around.

    I do not wish to see anyone stop participating on these forums, even the Chief, I would just like him to see that what he is doing currently does not count as participation either. We have yet to see the real Chief, we have only seen the facade.
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    I appreciate the sincerity Heis. I did leave these areas because of all the bickering about beliefs and how believers have such a small mind and how they are so close minded and how they believe false things and how they are so archaic. It gets old pretty fast and I am just not that way. I saw myself changing, becoming bitter. It is not for me.

    I actually took mp as a real and straight forward dude. but now, i see that most of what we shared on here was pretty much bullshit from his part as he probably never took me serious. I still respect him and enjoy reading stuff he writes on the subject of evolution.

    Thanks again man... I appreciate the time and consideration you gave to respond to my post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Oly!! Good to see you. For what it's worth I always saw in you the desire to understand. You have conviction in your beliefs and that conviction came from asking questions and listening to opposition. No one changed your mind, but wouldn't you say conversations became much more meaningful when we agreed on proper conduct? Sometimes you said the darnedest things, and other times you spoke from your heart with honesty. Those are the times we listened, and those are the posts I miss when you're not around.

    I do not wish to see anyone stop participating on these forums, even the Chief, I would just like him to see that what he is doing currently does not count as participation either. We have yet to see the real Chief, we have only seen the facade.
    I give + rep for good answers to my questions and if you give me rep, plz leave your name so I can rep you back and if YOU DONT LIKE AMERICA YOU CAN GEHHHT OUUUUUTTTTTTTTT!!!!

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