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    Sexxxuality Mod Mr. Ganja Padawanbater2's Avatar
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    ... that quite a bit of people who are religious also believe in things like ancient aliens, ghosts, 2012 predictions, that vaccines cause autism, climate change is a hoax, etc. and a lot of, most I'd argue, non believers... don't?

    I think there's a lot more to this correlation than what there appears to be on the surface...

    Another thing that I've noticed is those same kinds of people tend to misspell words or use lowercase letters when they should be capitalized, grammatical errors, they don't proof read, they don't know the correct usage of homophones (they're, their, there).

    So what do you guys think when you come across a person like this? What's the best way to get that person to realize their mistakes? Usually they get upset, if you tell them they've committed a logical fallacy or spelled a word incorrectly or whatever, I've seen people do it in the least personal way possible and the other person would still take offense. What's with the automatic defensive response most people have?
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    In all honesty, Pad ... I think it's a lost cause. Imo (and the opinion of another whose judgment I've grown to trust implicitly) the big and now intractable problem is the culture of "self-esteem" that has completely divorced acclaim from performance. Today's up&coming generation feels *entitled* to their mistakes, peccadillos and simple lapses of decency. it's their inalienable right ... even by aliens, ~sour smirk~.
    Bottom line ... the capacity to fruitfully point out a mistake *depends* on the recipient's capacity to feel even a speck of shame and to want to do it better. That is the thing that we've lost with the "no child left behind" mentality and its Pied Piper entourage of un(??)intended consequences. one tired old bear's view. cn
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    connection between religion and stupidity?

    No way

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    well people just dont like being told that they've been mislead or are stupid and fall for shit... (no matter if it helps them)

    because really when they lash out at you... they are lashing out at themselves, because they dont like to hear or cant believe the fact that they have been lied to their whole lives and or been lying to themselves, but just didnt know it yet till "logic and reason" came in and gave them the old bitchslap back into reality...

    but unfortunately when you do "tell" them... you are the one who usually gets to be the one to "hear" it... and its in the form of them thinking youre attacking them when in fact you are only trying to help them realize reality...

    at least thats my take on it...
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    I think it all trends with education

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    Hey, Pad! I'm glad that you listed those correlations, I've noticed the same thing. It seems that if one doesn't require proof/empirical evidence/critical thinking toward religious thought, one doesn't need them for many other ideas, either. This seems to often be reflected in their grammar and language skills, as well. Not very concerned with accuracy all the way around. We know that the best way to form beliefs/ideas is to look at all available data first then draw conclusions wherever they may lead. It seems that most people I encounter do this in reverse: they find a belief they like then try their very best to find data to support it. When you then attempt to point to evidence that contradicts their erroneous belief, they then become angry at you (a shoot the messenger type of thing). Like cannofbliss stated, deep down I think they are upset with themselves. It is always good to point out errors, not solely for the person you are correcting, but also for the other viewers of the thread so that they may learn...
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    God hates homophones!

    But seriously this is just a generalization that you couldn't possibly support with evidence. People might say the same thing about all us potheads.
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    im just too lazy to proof read sometimes, and if i get called out whatevs, stimple mistake... hehehehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balzac89 View Post
    connection between religion and stupidity?

    No way

    ...yes way, as stupid as not knowing the first thing about the subject and making 'intelligent' claims.

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    I think it has to be real hard to admit that most everything you thought you knew was possibly a big fat lie. I grew up not trusting what I was being taught, I don't know why, my sisters fell for it all, hook line and sinker. In order to make most people realize the error of their ways they would have to become way less materialistic and probably work harder for less and accept view point they would regularly not even consider. Its nice to see someone open up to the possibilities once in a while but as people grow older it is more likely to just offend them simply because they have invested so much time and money into a fucked up way of thinking.
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