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Old 01-09-2008, 05:54 AM
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Default though we are incredibly high....
....or psychotic (it's hard to tell which).

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is everything you are saying true?
it is true for some. need it be true for everyone?

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It appears to be a definition of GOD?
god is irrelevant, definitions are irrelevant. one might suppose it is all a matter of individual preference and self-delusion. we are all quite mad in our short time here and, in our madness, we attempt to label all we see and feel. what a waste of energy, but maybe that is all we have.

whether it is god or GOD or GOD, it is all the same thing. a coherent force to guide us in our daily routine or to blame for our earthly woes, a reason to stop searching for the answers we know we will never quite reach. it's just another way to deny the beautiful order of chaos and arrange our lives into some semblance of sanity. mankind cannot stand the idea of chaos even though that is his natural state. the riot of conflicting thoughts is constantly beaten into submission and filed away, the unexplained is warped to conform to some small definition of reality or ignored completely, the unexplainable is classified and cataloged and stacked neatly in a pile stamped "do not touch".

the god myth allows us to go blithely on our way. maybe we need it to retain some small illusion of stability.

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no and you shouldn't be told even if the answer were available. isn't the entire point of living as a reasoning being to attempt to figure these things out on your own?
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Old 01-10-2008, 03:09 PM
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do you ever look at the state of the earth and wonder how if got into such bad shape. why politicians re-elct themselves, stomp on the general public and make out they are really trying to help us. politics isn't the only area, look at religions, banks, wars, the list goes on. we as humans need help to get us out of this mess we have gotten ourselves into. in the bible it clearly states that satan has rule of the earth for a limited time to show god that we can rule ourselves and we do not need his help. look at the mess the father of darkness has got us into. believing his lies now is soooo much easier than trying to live a true life to yourself. but the consequences????? "Struggle to enter the Kingdom through the narrow door. The road to hell is wide with plenty of room and most go that way. But the door is small and the path is hard and narrow that leads to life and only a few find it."
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:27 AM
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....we as humans need help to get us out of this mess we have gotten ourselves into. in the bible it clearly states that satan has rule of the earth for a limited time to show god that we can rule ourselves and we do not need his help. look at the mess the father of darkness has got us into....
how wonderful it is to have an all purpose scapegoat. blaming mankind's lack of self control on some supernatural bogey-man is the perfect way to escape the torturous route of accepting personal responsibility for our own shortcomings and awaiting arrival of the divine hand to sort out the mess that humanity has made is far easier than working to fix things ourselves. this fatalistic view promoted by the abrahamic cults, that we are merely waiting for divine intervention and an end to this earthly confusion, seems childish at best; downright suicidal in my opinion. genuflection gives one nothing but sore knees and prostrating one's self before the lord is only another way of sticking your head in the sand.
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Default the sheep? i think you misunderstand
the vast majority of modern day culture has let christianity slip away into nothingness. the masses chose to follow consumer and cultural trends with no thought of the consequences, they do not believe so therefore are not blaming anyone, just accepting their actions as just.
what i wrote was trying to get people to open there eyes to the deceipt in todays world. there is hope.

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god is a title. not a word, not a name. be careful when you honor anything with the title of god.

of course, over time, if 'god' is used for anything meaningful, the title itself will become meaningless. so go ahead and call everything god.

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whether it is god or GOD or GOD, it is all the same thing. a coherent force to guide us in our daily routine or to blame for our earthly woes, a reason to stop searching for the answers we know we will never quite reach. it's just another way to deny the beautiful order of chaos and arrange our lives into some semblance of sanity.

another definition of GOD?

You know this thread is for people who "don't know".. and who want to explore with others who don't know..

it seems THAT those who KNOW always want to end the conversation by telling us what they KNOW... they want to CUM becaue they think they know that is the MEANING of sex...

and this is fine.. if it is enough to feel like YOU know.. then that is good.. but this thread is for people who DON'T KNOW...

and are able to go beyond belief and judgment..to a place beyond conventional thought... deep deep deep into the unknown...

I suspect that those who BELIEVE THEY KNOW.. are blocking the experience of GOD with their definition...


even if their definition is.. "nobody knows what god is" this is still a definition..

understand?

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of course, over time, if 'god' is used for anything meaningful, the title itself will become meaningless. so go ahead and call everything god.

blasphomy is a victemless crime.
Maybe people should be careful before they DON'T honor EVERYTHING...

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