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Old 01-07-2008, 12:48 PM
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"just an atheist's point of view
the god myth is all of our hopes and fears condensed into an idea that is easily digested by the masses. somewhere along the line god became the anthropomorphized realization that there is soooo much we will never understand. "

there is so much we will never understand. too true. the problem with most religions is they have been influenced by mankind, always wanting his own cut, his ideas to be introduced saying "this is gods will" when it is really the flesh taking control.
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Do.
or do not.
God,
or not.
Why bother with someone else's definition of everything that is you?
Stoke some original thought and keep the miscommunication to a minimum.
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god is truth
this truth we can never truly understand

but striving to live and understand this truth makes you grow spiritually as a person. this expansion is achieved through the extension of oneself... which is love.

I came to this conclusion after reading The Road Less Traveled by scott peck.
Gandhi can also be viewed as this type of thinker.

It makes me scared, and uncertain, but happy deep down at the same time, because I know if I keep trying maybe I'll be able to grow. Who knows where this growth will take a person?

I'm only in the very early stages, my view of truth is small, twisted, and inaccurate. But I have faith for something...
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EDIT: and at any time a person's views who chooses this path may change, which can make him seem hypocritical or contradictory, but you should always know this person from their love. Love meaning how much they extend themselves wanting nothing more then the feeling of spiritual growth.
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the god myth is all of our hopes and fears condensed into an idea that is easily digested by the masses. somewhere along the line god became the anthropomorphized realization that there is soooo much we will never understand. as mankind has gained a better understanding of the world around him, he has strayed from the animistic roots of his first spirituality and the reverence he once felt for everything has turned into a general disdain. his deities have gained more and more human characteristics, demanding worship and sacrifice - that which we most desire from those around us. our gods began to demand housing and detailed rules of conduct. they warred with one another and faded away in defeat, just as we do.

as mankind's concepts of spirituality have evolved our need for multiple deities has faded away, consolidating our worship to a single god. soon we may find ourselves doing away with that one as well and, with no imaginary parent left to defy, we may even regain our reverence for all things.

is this your definition of god?

and if so.. what purpose does this understanding serve?

and how easily could you change your understanding?

and who would you be if you did not have this understanding?

would you be god?



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god is truth
this truth we can never truly understand

EDIT: and at any time a person's views who chooses this path may change, which can make him seem hypocritical or contradictory, but you should always know this person from their love. Love meaning how much they extend themselves wanting nothing more then the feeling of spiritual growth.

excuse me.....

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE AN AV COOLER THAN MINE!!!!

and yours IS!!!

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excuse me.....

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE AN AV COOLER THAN MINE!!!!

and yours IS!!!

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you, in a way inspired it.
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is this your definition of god?
can you define what does not exist? the god myth is an idea created by fear and, as such, it is something we have little use for. god as the creator is for those who have an unfulfilled need to be watched over by some benevolent parent, we have no such need. god the omnipotent ideal is for those who crave the guidance of a stern parent, we refuse to allow ourselves to be so easily controlled. god as an idea is dangerous, god as a coherent force is improbable, god as a being is laughable. the ultimate questions cannot be answered; get used to it, get over it, and get on with your life.

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to deny the existence of deities is to deny dogma the ability to control your life. without the rules man has created in the name of the gods, we are free to be guided by our own rules and to once again revere all.

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it has taken us the better part of the last half-century to come to this much of our understanding. it is constantly evolving as we gain knowledge and will constantly change until we are laid to rest. anything else would be stagnation and that is best left to those trapped within the god myth.

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we cannot be other than we are. the life we have lived has made us what we are and what we are contains this understanding. you might just as well ask what would a chicken be if it weren't a chicken.
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god is anything that we cannot explain rationally. Just think about it when something out of the ordinary happens and you have no explaination for the occurance what do we use to explain it? god.

god is a form of crowd control. what better way to keep the masses under control than to position a diety that defines perfection, so that people have an image to conform too. all god really is, is the voice inside of your head telling you right from wrong. imo
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can you define what does not exist? the god myth is an idea created by fear and, as such, it is something we have little use for. god as the creator is for those who have an unfulfilled need to be watched over by some benevolent parent, we have no such need. god the omnipotent ideal is for those who crave the guidance of a stern parent, we refuse to allow ourselves to be so easily controlled. god as an idea is dangerous, god as a coherent force is improbable, god as a being is laughable. the ultimate questions cannot be answered; get used to it, get over it, and get on with your life.

to deny the existence of deities is to deny dogma the ability to control your life. without the rules man has created in the name of the gods, we are free to be guided by our own rules and to once again revere all.

it has taken us the better part of the last half-century to come to this much of our understanding. it is constantly evolving as we gain knowledge and will constantly change until we are laid to rest. anything else would be stagnation and that is best left to those trapped within the god myth.

we cannot be other than we are. the life we have lived has made us what we are and what we are contains this understanding. you might just as well ask what would a chicken be if it weren't a chicken.

is everything you are saying true? It appears to be a definition of GOD?


I don't know what existence is. Can you tell me?
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