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the greatest proof of the un-truths of religions is god. if you truly examine and meditate on what the personalities are of the god each religion is telling you to believe in, you would lose faith immediately.

christianity has so many rediculously convoluted ways of trying to explain their god of contradictions it is laughable. in the end they resort to the famous line: "our puny humans minds cannot comprehend god." BULLSHIT! you just can't come to terms with the fact that you god doesn't make sense. humans have always had more logic then the god of the bible.
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religion is stupid i would think by this day in age us as humans would move beyond this spiritual bullshit. i also think that its fucked up that the united states is run by a bunch of dillusional christians and there beliefs.
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Russell's teapot, sometimes called the Celestial Teapot, was an analogy first coined by the philosopher Bertrand Russell (1872–1970), intended to refute the idea that the burden of proof lies upon the sceptic to disprove unfalsifiable claims of religions. In an article entitled "Is There a God?", Russell wrote:
If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is an intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time.
In his 2003 book A Devil's Chaplain, Richard Dawkins developed the teapot theme a little further:
The reason organized religion merits outright hostility is that, unlike belief in Russell's teapot, religion is powerful, influential, tax-exempt and systematically passed on to children too young to defend themselves. Children are not compelled to spend their formative years memorizing loony books about teapots. Government-subsidized schools don't exclude children whose parents prefer the wrong shape of teapot. Teapot-believers don't stone teapot-unbelievers, teapot-apostates, teapot-heretics and teapot-blasphemers to death. Mothers don't warn their sons off marrying teapot-shiksas whose parents believe in three teapots rather than one. People who put the milk in first don't kneecap those who put the tea in first.
The concept of Russell's teapot has been extrapolated into humorous, more explicitly religion-parodying forms such as the Invisible Pink Unicorn[2] and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
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That's how my aunts feel today. They don't know Jesus for themselves, they knew him through their mom. That made them go to church and get saved. That 's why they don't go to church anymore because they just didn't know him for themselves.
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The thing about Christianity though, is that it was and still is an element of political power. Middle Ages, Church was absolute power on Earth. Then, as they began to lose it, they sought any means necessary to maintain it. When Luther was like, "Oy, this ain't right mate" They wer like, "oh well, screw you, you gonna die." Luther switched it up, got support, and Catholics and Lutherins fought, even though they both believed in the exact same God. Then the Jews, Anabaptists, etc. were all persecuted in turn because the way they thought threatened the political structure of the powerful people. It had nothing to do with the religion itself. So fucked up, since commandment...I'm not sure which one exactly: "Thou shalt NOT kill". Duh. Hypocrasy?
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The problem Silk, is he really believes the Koran is unchanged. Excuse me for saying this, but how do you fix stupid?
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religion is stupid i would think by this day in age us as humans would move beyond this spiritual bullshit. i also think that its fucked up that the united states is run by a bunch of dillusional christians and there beliefs.
Many dillusional Christians have died for your right of disbelief.

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Many dillusional Christians have died for your right of disbelief.

Freedom is not free.

Freedom doesn't exist in this world. It's all a fallacy. Peace cannot be forced, the cycle must be allowed to perpetuate. Freedom is a perspective.
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All this freedom talk is b/s! Yea, theres some places on earth where its better to keep your mouth shut, but not even close to the majority of countrys. I have visited everywhere from France to Israel, and the U.S. doesn't stand out when it comes to this issue. We just happened to be the first to really form a true democracy, but that was hundreds of yrs ago.

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