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I am and it sucks. Half of my family is full of bible thumping nutjobs.

All they want to do is talk about the baby jesus and its so goddamn annoying to sit there and pretend I care what they're talking about.

Any good way I can tell them I'm an atheist?
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why do you have to label yourself anything? why not just be?
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perhaps you arent open minded to your familes beliefe? what makes your beliefs any more valid than anyone elses?
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The fact that he doesn't believe in any invisible magical people supposedly responsible for any random thing you can assign them too.

Open minded doesn't mean you have to accept any bit of nonsense without evidence or merit.
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There is only one good way to tell them, the only reasonable way to break the ice, for good or bad; Simply tell them.
You can't beat around the bush, being direct with theists of there kind, forgive my assumption (I'm assuming they're the crazy type) is hard
enough as is. Just lay it out flat, tell them your beliefs but stress the point that you respect theres and would like the same in due kind.

If they're not cool with it, well then that's a matter all in and above your 'stances' on reality. Rather than that my friend, those are some fundamental character
flaws they have that you need to either get by with or lose touch with.

It's one thing to be an atheist around theists, this is not fuel for any qualm; Rather, it is an entirely separate thing to be an atheist around unchanging, unthinking
prejudicial and detrimentally irrational crazies.
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I am and it sucks. Half of my family is full of bible thumping nutjobs.

All they want to do is talk about the baby jesus and its so goddamn annoying to sit there and pretend I care what they're talking about.

Any good way I can tell them I'm an atheist?
If you don't want to tell them DIRECTLY, just try to do it indirectly. Every now and then, throw in a comment about something and how science explains it.

I know it sucks, trust me. I'm Filipino and my relatives are the same.

Personally, I'm Buddhist but that's not really the same kind of religion where you worship a god because Buddha isn't a god, just a person. You don't worship him or anyone. It's more of a mindset.

If you know about your ethnicity's history or whatever, try to remind them what happened after they were Christianized or whatever. I know for sure that plenty of people got shafted more than rewarded when they switched to some slave mentality promoting religion.

Also, be respectful. I know that their ish is really hard to put up with, but that's probably not going to change anytime soon depending on how zealous they are. At the very least, have a middle ground. They don't bug you about their ish, you don't rag on them so much.

Wanna hear a joke? Abstinence isn't 100% effective...because that's how Jesus was born.
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I find full blodded athiests to be a bit pretentious, but most people that consider themselves athiests are really of the agnostic variety. This is simply the belief that you don't believe there is a higher power based on evidence presented to you, but that you really dont know and are open to any proof either way.



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religion has caused nothing but wars, i believe in the sun god............
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Warlord...grow a pair. Ten years ago in 6th or 7th grade I was in a Catholic school where every month we had a mass in the gym in front of the whole school. I decided not to stand and receive the Eucharist. As for my family, they're still in denial as I assume yours will be after you tell them.
--And HiddenAgenda...Agnostics are atheists without a pair
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That's idiotic kaiseraxel, although I do agree he essensially needs to be straight with them on it if it's bothering him that much, to be fair if it was a matter of being a pussy, why the fuck not just suck it up and not cause your family any strife? I'm not going to assume up to this point that you'd have enough to try persuading them, so I won't bother mentioning it past this.

My beef is agnostics are not atheists without a pair. Atheism and Agnosticism are practically one and the same, merely focusing on one thing different than the next. Agnosticism focuses more on the fact that it's an improbability not worth mentioning. Atheism focuses more on the logistics and details on a morality basis when pertaining specifically to the counter axis; theism. Agnosticism is recognizing the futility of pondering, atheism is energetic disdain of the disillusioned/blind and crazed. Not all bad, but not a single one right. I wouldn't say it's a matter of balls, it's merely a matter of preference.

Why the fuck should I care if somebody has a skewed outlook on the reality we share, as long as they aren't flashing it in my face or punching it into mentally defenseless children's throats, fuck it.
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