Thanks for the advice people.

To give you an example of how crazy they are, my cousin came out about a year ago(this was no surprise to me because of how feminine he was) and my family tried to hold an EXORCISM for him to get the gay demon out.

I'll try to be as straight forward to them as I can, but I know there's going to be some social repercussions.

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Gaw Dam Mongorians!

Damn son, that is messed up. I think Your fam is on a whole nother level than mines. Make them watch Zeitgeist or something.

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Wouldn't it be great if it wasn't colder? Then we wouldn't have to wait so long, and wouldn't it be nice to be high forever in the kind of world where we belong?

DJ...there is a big difference between believers and nonbelievers...If you go up to a 'true' believer, and attempt them to convert them with ANYTHING, it won't work...period...because that is there belief and they are sticking to it (and yeah yeah Christians have many diverse subgroups but by conversion I mean a whole new god, or none at all). On the OTHER hand, if you bring provable evidence to an atheist, he/she will actually consider converting to that ideology. And the reason I say agnostics are atheists without balls is because both are waiting for just that: evidence. They won't believe in religion until it is proven, or something happens to them in their life that makes them believe; either way I decided the evidence wasn't going to show up in my lifetime and wth, just go full-blown atheist.

And Warlord, I've seen some pretty negative reactions towards family members, particularly offspring, when they come out about being atheists. If you are still their dependent, I would just wait till I moved out, and THEN tell them...that way they don't see you everyday and will have some time to calm down about it, xP

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It's not about the size of the dog in the fight, it's about the size of the fight in the dog. -Twain (if you didnt get the potency metaphor, you fail) http://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal...tiva-pics.html

Just because the 'majority' works this way *I don't agree, but for sake of conversation let us say* does not give reason to the generalization of the whole.

I know atheists just as non accepting as the most devote theist, and vice versa. It's not that most atheists are open minded, it's most open minded people seem to be atheists, you've missed this crucial point.

aside from that though, sure, alright, but my point was to face up and try, be the bigger person. If this doesn't work, well then there's a problem afterwards.
-Assuming you need to bother telling them at all. If you truly feel uncomfortable with the situation you're in, theres only one way to go about it and two responses to it. Face up - be with or be without them. Simple as that.

If they're so bat nut fucking crazy, coupled with being so uncomfortable that one cannot bare there families theistic presence upon them, I see no other solution or outcome besides being a pussy.

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You see things; and you say 'why?' - I dream things that never were: and I say 'Why not?'

Reincarnation - A bunch of amnesic parasitic ghosts trying to reach enlightenment.

for someone who knows so much about a person its funny you don't even know his name

and Mw if it will upset your mother i'd just keep it to myself

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Originally Posted by zoutekoffie
i dont have direct sunlight becouse of the clouds

im an open agnostic and proud to be one. ill debate religion with a radical muslum a rabi and a catholic priest

i know all about religon and i dont bellive a shred of it. Catholicism is a joke and a scam and the pope is a nazi. jesus wasnt born in december and vigins dont have children

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I grow only tomatoes and for my personal use. Any inference otherwise from my posts is completely false.

If you were proud of who you are everyone would know it. Instead you spend your time trying to tear others down, and feeling insecure about your self.

Pathetic

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"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson my grow

i hope your talking to me and calling me pathetic, and not the OP, because ill debate you too if you anything i said is disagreeable

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I grow only tomatoes and for my personal use. Any inference otherwise from my posts is completely false.

Apparently you don't disagree with my psychiatric analysis?

Self esteem has a cure, try charity work

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"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson my grow

you mean this. i dont think i tear anyone down, and i challenge you to find something i said that would be considered "tearing down" anyone in particular

i try to be nothing but helpful or at the least, comical. and ive never intentionally hurt anyone's feelings

you obviously dont know me from any other member, and unless im paying you for counseling, id like it if you kept your psychiatric analysis to your self

and for the charity work, i do clean up the woods rivers and all that stuff around my house, if youd consider that charity

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I grow only tomatoes and for my personal use. Any inference otherwise from my posts is completely false.