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View Poll Results: What would you do if you witnessed this crime?
I would join in the fun 2 6.06%
I would be one of those cheering, but I wouldn't join in 1 3.03%
I wouldn't cheer, but it's not my responsibility to police other people 0 0%
I would call the police immediately 5 15.15%
I would call 911, and then risk my own ass trying to help the victim 25 75.76%
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:26 AM
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Default Poll: What would you do in this situation?
When "doing nothing becomes the norm", I'm interested to see what other RUIer's would do in this situation.

At the end of this page; I've included links to several accounts of this story, so you get the facts straight.

Read up and then vote your conscience.


From The Christian Science Monitor

"Homecoming rape:

When do bystanders become accomplices?

"San Francisco - The case of a 15-year-old girl who was raped outside her high school homecoming dance last weekend is likely to raise legal questions about who was merely a witness and who was an accomplice.

Four teenagers were arraigned in Richmond, Calif., Thursday. Three of the suspects are juveniles, and one is a 19-year-old man. All have been charged as adults. A 21-year-old man has also been arrested but not officially charged in the rape.

The assault has shocked Bay Area residents not only because as many as two dozen people apparently witnessed it but because the attack went on for more than two hours without anyone reporting or stopping it.
A former Richmond High School student, who heard about the rape secondhand, eventually alerted Richmond Police, who expect to make more arrests in the case.

Some experts have attributed the witness inaction to the so-called bystander effect, which posits that witnesses are less likely to intervene if other bystanders aren't stepping in to stop the crime.

Drew Carberry of the National Council on Crime Prevention told CNN: "If you are in a crowd and you look and see that everyone is doing nothing, then doing nothing becomes the norm."

Early reports indicate that some bystanders recorded the rape on cellphones and others cheered. If that's correct, those individuals could be charged as accomplices under California law even if they didn't physically assault the victim.

Accomplice liability is applicable to someone who aides and abets a crime, says Kara Dansky, executive director at the Stanford Criminal Justice Center. If a bystander verbally encouraged a crime, they can face the same level of punishment as those who actually carry it out, she says.

For his part, Richmond Police Lt. Mark Gagen told CNN that police "do not have the ability to arrest people who witnessed the crime and did nothing.... The law can be very rigid. We don't have the authority to make an arrest."
But Professor Dansky suspects the question of accomplice liability will become a key issue in the prosecution's case.

Answering the question of what amounts to aiding and abetting, however, will require "intensive fact investigation on the part of the police and difficult line-drawing on the part of the prosecutors," she notes on her blog."

CNN: Friend of gang rape victim blasts school officials over safety

CNN covers the story from a, "it's a police issue", while ignoring the social implications.

One news organization (unnamed) blames poor lighting in the area, as the cause.

CBS Will Richmond High Gang Rape Gawkers Go Free?

USA Today Police arrest 5 in 2-hour gang-rape of teen outside homecoming dance

It seems NBC and FOX were too busy diverting attention to their political feud, to accurately cover the story.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:53 AM
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I've never let a crowd of gawking bystanders get in the way of helping someone in trouble.
Every person there who did nothing to help should be ashamed of what they have become.
If people don't stand up for the victims, who will be left to stand up for them when they are victimized.
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Old 10-30-2009, 03:55 PM
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Green Cross, I can't take you seriously with that avatar lol, You can say the same of mine but I'm sure for a totally separate reason. I hope it's there for jest and not on some notion of seriousness.
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Old 10-30-2009, 04:17 PM
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I put that I would call 911 and then go risk my own ass to help out. That's actually not true. I would just go kick the guy in the head a few times, then throw some clothes on the girl or what ever. After that I would call the cops. I'm sure the asshole would probably sue me and it'd be a bunch of bs but to me it would be worth it.


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Green Cross, I can't take you seriously with that avatar lol, You can say the same of mine but I'm sure for a totally separate reason. I hope it's there for jest and not on some notion of seriousness.
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I'd probably risk my own ass first.I have a problem with rage.I probably wouldn't even think about 911 until after I had beaten several of those guys with a stick.And a few of the bystanders.I think my main thing would be to make them stop hurting her.I have two girls,and the thought of anything like this happening always makes me think of how the parents must be feeling,because as parents you tend to try to blame yourself."Oh, I shouldn't have let her go to the dance,etc."
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it is a disgrace, honestly... it makes me think of when i would go to the ghetto to buy drugs... the dealers sit on corners all day and night and the people who live there turn their backs on it as they fear retribution and that it isn't "cool" to be a rat in the hood.. but a few times a cop would roll up right as i was making my purchase and these same people who sit there and say nothing about dealers in front of there houses all day would turn to the cop and tell them which way i took off running... and why? because they didn't know me and weren't afraid that i would later come back and shoot at their houses or whatever.. their mistakes, lol...
but really.. i have read about this before.. it is kinda like people who get abducted or kidnapped and end up having feelings for their kidnappers. like patti hearst joining the PLO after being kidnapped by them and later robbing a bank with them..
i really am fascinated by the pyschology of it all...
i would like to think that i too would jump the a holes sitting there gang raping some chic and beat the hell out of them with the same cell phones that the people were using to video tape it all... but you honestly can't answer something like this till you are put in the situation.. you wouldn't think that this would matter, but there have been tons of studies on stuff like this and time and time again if no one acts to begin with, it makes it that much harder for anyone else to come along and act... sad.. but true...
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i saw the poll and put i would cheer but not join in, that was a total mistake, i didn't see what the crime was, , i hope noone sees the results and judes me for it :S ii honestly didn't realise the crime, im so sorry if any one gets the wrong impression or anything, i would actually beat the living shit out of any partisipants an bystanders eencouraging it, then help th poor girl, offer her a spliff and make good of th situation, the thought of calling the police might cross my mind at some pont XD
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:52 AM
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Sometimes I can't believe how horrible people are. These people deserve to get raped while they're in prison, assuming they all go. I would have definately been beatin some ass too if i was there. Also can't believe that people cheered it on. Hopefully karma will get the best of these people.
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I would deck the motherfuckers doing it, but i wouldn't call in those pigs...
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