im proud to be a godless heathen! capitalism is just as corrupted all it takes is money and lobbyist just like now. by the time a bill passes through all the greedy fucks it's a watered down hey we tried half ass peice of toilet paper. much like the healthcare bill.

It's no insult to me. I was raised a S. Blasphemist and wouldn't piss in a preachers mouth if his teeth were on fire. Spout your fire and brimstone crap elsewhere. Heaven or Hell...it's all about how you live your life here on Earth NOW!!!! There is no later. So keep putting your head down and ass up and you will eventually get screwed(just like the little Catholic boys!). It's all about Peace on Earth and showing Good Will to your fellow man/woman not just hoping.

Your explanation (everything follow "-for me"), actually hints at non-atheism. Rather it hints more at the perversion of religion by man.

While I am not an atheist - I do believe in God, I think too much of religion has been perverted by man so people will unquestioningly follow their church. I think living a "good/moral" life is much simpler than put forth by churchgoers.

I believe pursuing happiness and assisting others in their own pursuit of happiness is all that matters. If you think about it, this covers every tenet set forth by the Bible/Koran/Pentateuch etc. Respecting your self and other's is all that is needed in my mind to prove your faith to a higher being...

"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." John 13:34-35

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There is a distinction between theism and deism though. A person can reject theistic gods and still believe there is something out there.

So you can end up with gnostic atheists, agnostic atheists, gnostic and agnostic theists, deists, etc.

So having common ground with a theist does not necessarily bring him back into the fold.

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Jesus Christ! Just because we don't believe in talking snakes, arks, and all that shit you call us commies? Fucking religion is the main reason for most of the problems in this world. Isn't there a section for religious chatter on this site?

Propaganda? Jesus Christ!

Godless, yes, definitely. Communist? Not so much, I spend money I earned everyday, I'm pretty much a practicing capitalist, even if I don't always agree with the system... But thanks for your reply anyway, I was hoping you'd make an appearance. I started this thread with you and a few other people in mind specifically, hopefully a little of it got through. I'm sorry we're not all these terrible people your friends and parents told you atheists were, but that's life...

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Couldn't agree more with this post, you're already becoming a strong voice on the forum, good job keep it up! Can't even give you any more rep.

In a sense, I guess you could call me a diest, except in my own mind, the likelyhood of the Christian God or Muslim God or any of the other gods we've created is so unbelievably low, you might as well just go ahead and say I'm an atheist, like less than 1% low. Who knows though, there could definitely be some other unknown force or being out there somewhere in existence that we've never even concieved of.. Could be anything really...

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I just do not recall any story about anyone going into the woods or there own backyard and meditating on the infinite, and then coming up with.

There is nothing.

Then being considered enlightened, by anyone.

Even the Buddha didn't preach atheism. Nor Daoism, Satanism, Demonism, Shamanism, Confusism, the Vedas.

Humph. . . obviously I could go on. Even most Scientists(Einstein lncluded) believe in "an impersonal deity/creator"

The definition of everything in the end is variable to some degree.

The non religious (myself included) have many sub categories.

Is Buddhism a religion? That's a tough call. It's a way of life, but there is no worship nor diety. Certainly no one worships Buddha

But as a whole, I consider myself to be an atheist. I do believe in the creation point, but cannot say with any certainty what was behind that creation point.

I don't believe atheists think there is "nothing". It's more the rejection of a personal G*D who created the universe for the express reason of Earth and man. It's an awful waste of space.

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as an athiest for many years actually since i was 12
i never found peace in beleiving in something that is scientificly impossible
science being the study of the TRUTH
beleiving in a "mythical","magical",or "all knowing" deity is simply improbable
but hey people are entitled to religeon without being discriminated against right?
i mean it says it in the 1st ammendment

i do beleive in evolution and the "Big Bang theory"

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