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Old 10-07-2009, 10:42 AM
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Think of all those people waiting for "The Rapture". Supposedly 40% of the US population believe Jesus is coming to bring them up to heaven in the next couple of decades.
But what if they've mixed up Rapture and Raptor. We've all seen the picture. Jesus riding his velociraptor.
Maybe he's coming back to take people in "The Raptor" instead. With a great gnashing of teeth, and fountains of blood, the faithful will find their way to Heaven in the bowels of a giant featherless chicken.

While the atheists will be standing around saying, "Wow, I'm so glad I didn't fall for that stuff. More cake?"
Jesus gave every indication that it would all happen soon (end of world)..... and of course nothing did, and Christianity was relegated to a backwater religion, which of course, is exactly what is it was.

Now for at least the last 1500 years, if you asked almost ANY Christian if Jesus was coming back in their life times.... "OH YES!!! I think so!"

On and on it goes...... one sheep dies, and another is born.
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To me, being an atheist is extremely enlightening. Tyler Durdens quote from Fight Club puts it in perspective... "it's only when you've lost everything that you're free to do anything". Being a believer, you are confined to your little box of conformity, you believe what your told to believe because if you don't, you won't get into the special club after you die. If you simply question it you're risking your entry.

-for me, this is clear evidence of strike one. Only man could put such a rule into the requirement for belief. An omnipotent being wouldn't think of it and if it did, the consequences for questioning ones belief would be praised, not punished, for using that which your creater specifically gave to you in the first place. Knowledge. We wouldn't have it if we weren't supposed to use it.

Atheism increases my sense of empathy, directly affecting my sense of morality, in a positive way. Once one realizes, or acknowledges, that this is the only chance we get at life, you begin to realize how prescious each and every one life is, and how equal each human being is. In the grand scheme of things, petty differences like skin color, nationality, etc. don't matter. None of it matters, only peace and happiness. I know it's starting to sound like some hippy shit, but honestly, I hear so many connectons between atheism and stuff like eugenics and the holocaust.. I mean seriously, "Hitler was an atheist, therefor atheism influenced the Holocaust" type stuff... I just wanted to clear up these ridiculous misconceptions some people have about what atheism is or how it contributes to a persons life. The thing is, most atheists used to be believers, so we can talk about religion knowing how it is, knowing what it's like, personally having been there. Becoming an atheist I've learned is a huge step to gaining knowledge. If you are not an atheist, there are certain things you are incapable of learning correctly, this is just from my experience and does not go for every believer.

That scene from the Matrix, where Morpheus is offerring Neo the red pill or the blue pill is a perfect representation of becoming an atheist. The blue pill (the one he swallows) is representing atheism, once you swallow it, there is no turning back. "you take the red pill, the story ends, you wake up tomorrow and believe... whatever you want to believe. You take the blue pill, you stay in wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes..." Once you become an atheist, if you do it for the right reasons, I'd be willing to bet it is almost impossible to become a believer again at some time in the future unless God was actually proven worldwide at some point. Which is why when I hear idiots like Kirk Cameron claim they used to be an atheist, I can only pity them, for one they just outed themselves as a moron without even realizing it, and for two because they're sitting there trying to push their belief that says lying is a sin while lying to my face. Double dose of irony in a single interaction, incredible!

Anyway, yeah, I don't roast babies, I don't worship demons, I don't hate God, I don't give a fuck what you put on my money to be honest, I just want you to keep your religious legislation away from me and my family. If there's a law that is passed that has something to do with your God or what your God said is right or wrong and I don't agree with it, I'll fight it, because I'm an American and I have that right. You have the right to fight back, but you don't have any right to pass your imaginary friends words off and make em into laws. If you do, I do too. Oh I don't?! Then fuck you , you don't either.

Stop spreading misconceptions about atheism religious people. You wouldn't know what atheism was if it bit you in the ass, and a lot of you from these boards show that on a regular basis.

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You are a godless communist, and that's fine, but why do you feel the need to peddle your propaganda here?
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I gotta say nice post pawda! It wasn't until I stopped believing that I realized this is it I need to make the most of it. Green cross why do you say we spread propaganda when there is a bible in every hotel? stop whining because you have no leg to stand on. no one made you read this thread. propaganda is forced upon you and you chose to open this thread to tell us this is propaganda. Poor followers of jesus stuck in the majority dozens of lobbys defending your beliefs. poor poor you To me being an atheist means shedding that human need to have someone watching you to deny death. As an atheist I embrace death because it is natural to die and, after my work is done and I have had my experiences I welcome death. If more people were focused on just living meaningful life and less on trying to get to heaven i believe the world would be a better place. Believing in something that isn't infallable (sp) like science and nature is truly enlightening.
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Can you imagine the petty little god of the bible being responsible for the creation of the universe and whatever lies beyond it?
I can't.
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Atheism is the way to go!! Religion is full of false beliefs, false gods, and false hope.

Religion is not logical, it is magical. And I have yet to see real magic. +rep for this post!

At BEST one could say God may or may not exist....... but don't waste a life on fear and worship
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Gee, Mr. Christian,I find it interesting that the first one to start name calling is the guy who claims the moral high ground.
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Being called godless certainly isn't an insult to us atheists.

And communism works for some people. Like most governments it can be horribly corrupted, but for small population it can work quite well.

I like the concept of rational anarchy myself, but I know that it's not something that could be realistically put to practice. But the concept is admirable.

If we're godless communists, does that make you a religious fascist?
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