
07-19-2007, 10:21 AM
| | Stranger Stranger | | Join Date: Jul 2007
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| | Everything I said was pulled out of my head. I have a biased opinion on things like this because I went to a Catholic high school (even though im not catholic it was for the proper education). During high school I was told the founding fathers were Christian, and followed the church and bible to build this country. I also learned of the separation of church and state, however, I was told the reasons for which are because this is a so called "free country, ruled by the people" which is grade A bullshit, money equals power in a capitalistic society. | 
07-20-2007, 12:26 PM
|  | Stranger Stranger | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: cloud nine...
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Originally Posted by helloinsomnia Everything I said was pulled out of my head. I have a biased opinion on things like this because I went to a Catholic high school (even though im not catholic it was for the proper education). During high school I was told the founding fathers were Christian, and followed the church and bible to build this country. I also learned of the separation of church and state, however, I was told the reasons for which are because this is a so called "free country, ruled by the people" which is grade A bullshit, money equals power in a capitalistic society. | question everything.  | 
07-20-2007, 07:15 PM
| | Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: with your mom...
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| | good to know money which is also called capital is the power in a capitalistic society...lol....ne way in the state of utah polyagmy is legal because tis state was founded by morman's....also for men we are naturally poligamists even the bible states that as a man we should spread our seed as much as possilbe with our many wives...its just another one of those things that as a society we feel that we have surpassed intlectually... | 
07-25-2007, 01:21 AM
|  | Ganja Smoker Pot Head | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Alabama
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Originally Posted by Ethnobotanist I have to disagree with the first part of your post. Most of the founding fathers were Deists or Atheists. Jefferson was a deist who despised Christianity, but admired Jesus. Benjamin Franklin was an athiest. Washington was also a deist. The only Founding Fathers that were Christians in the central group were James Madison and John Adams, as far as I know of. This is why the preamble to the constitution uses "Creator" instead of God, or any other variant. All of the terminology is Deist/Panentheistic. And hence the seperation of church and state. The Founding Fathers would be turning over in their graves now if they saw what's happening to this country, I'm sure.
And yes, you're right. They did it to fuck with the Mormons. There was no law regarding polygamy on the books in America (on a national level) before that.
~Ethno | Franklin was not an atheist, he was a deist much like Jefferson. Their views were common among Enlightenment intellectuals of the time, they were opposed to religious dogma but were nevertheless faithful. | 
07-25-2007, 01:24 AM
|  | Ganja Smoker Pot Head | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Alabama
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Originally Posted by Salamandastron! Not that I really care but I was wondering this the other day. I saw an application for Citizenship somewhere and it asked a bunch of questions like "are you a felon", "are you a terrorist"(very effective for weeding out the Honest Terrorists). However, among those questions was "are you a polygamist or have you ever practised polygamy?"...or something to that effect. Polygamy is against the Law, this we know. but why? while grimy,its 100% legal to have 10 girlfriends. shit, one can be married and have any number of mistresses. and thats A-OK. but if you try to make one of your many mistresses a second wife...Bang! the hammer drops! Does that make sense to anyone? i mean, the argument for Gay Marriage is that there are two consenting adults, neither of whom are harming anyone. cant the argument be said the same for polygamy? assuming that all people involved are consenting...
Anyway, while i am not by any means an advocate for Polygamy, i was just wondering...Sorry it simply makes no sense to me.
Does anyone have an argument for why it should be illegal? | Polygamy is illegal because the government says it is. The government should have no say in whether or not people can get married. As long as there is consent (which is why you shouldn't be able to marry a goat), there should be no problem. | 
08-02-2007, 10:30 PM
| | Veteran Smoker Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jun 2007
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| | Government controls the money in this country. Religions control what ever God you may believe in. If there is separation of Church and State, then why does "In God We Trust" appear on every piece of our currency? Makes no sense. Its all a smoke screen to be used when it works to their advantage...well....for either side. | 
08-03-2007, 01:21 AM
|  | Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The center of my universe
Posts: 1,049
| | what i want to know is, why anybody would WANT to do this. one woman is enough. could you imagine an entire house full of PMSing women? fuck that.
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