It gives them room for error. They just shrug it off, believing it is somehow written in the stars.

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You sure you wrote that in a blog last year? I googled it with 14000 results and posts from 2004.

I dont consider myself an atheist or a religious person. I am ME. And nobody governs me, I have my own beliefs and am not bothered by what others believe. However calling myself an atheist would simply be grouping myself with a whole nother group of people, same as joining a religion.

Yeah...just without all the angry unicorns and brush fires.

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According to your logic, memory is an illusion. It is not real. It is not tangible. It is just a memory. Presuming heaven works outside of the realm of the physical universe, a soulless version of the son is usable. Perception is subject to illusion no doubt... but if the son is with them, is it an illusion? There are so many better things to address in so far as the heaven concept is concerned. Being in two places at once doesn't seem like a feat too difficult for an omnipotent being to muster.

There has been evidence to support the theory, but it is just a theory. Evolution has not been "proven". Certainly not ours.

Two problems here...

First, radiometric dating is more art than science... which is why if you give two teams two samples from the same object, you will almost certainly get two different results. Hardly an exact science. Were you aware that carbon dating can only be accurate to 4,700 years due to the nucleic half-life of c-14?

I view carbon dating much like I view breathalizing. If you have to keep doing it to get the result you are expecting... it isn't science.

Btw... how long is a day to God? Just assuming it is a 24 hour period? All calculations of 6k years presumes that God measures time by the rotation of the earth (which did not yet exist) around the sun (which did not yet exist). Speaking of paradoxes... how do you use a series of events to determine the time it takes to create the subjects of the series of events?

Holy logical non-sequiturs batman...

1. If the bible were "disproven", it has nothing to do with God, but man. The failure of man to report the message accurately does not affect the message, nor the issuer.

2. We cannot be certain about anything concerning an unfathomable intelligence. That is why we call it unfathomable.

3. God is not "a religion".

4. Perhaps the need to be worshipped comes not from a sense of lonliness or domination, or whateve narcisistic need you infer, but for the benefit of the worshipers. My dog doesn't have to understand why he must obey my commands... but it is in his best interest to, because I know more than him. I do not require that the dog understand why I am calling it away from the road, it must simply do it. The more loyal the dog is, the easier it is for me to protect it.


Oh snap.

Unless musical suicide is author Sam Harris, he is full of shit.

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Memory is a combination of truth and the crap your brain fills in the gaps with...more illusion the further you get from the actual event. And as long as you are going to believe in stuff that is not there...might as well see double...I bet Unicorns could be in two places at once, if they really wanted to that is.

I really wish christians would put down the best selling novel of all time and pick up a damn dictionary, and quit using definitions 7 and 8 when speaking of "theory"....IT IS NOT THE SAME THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Theory (def #1 and closer to how science would define) 1. A coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena; Darwin's Theory of Evolution.

Definition(s) #7:Contemplation or speculation, and the last #8 under hypothetical or ideal conditions; theoretically

This word is so misused (thanks) that webster had to add extra info:

-syn Theory, hypothesis are used in non-technical contexts to mean an untested idea or opinion.

A theory in technical use is more or less verified or established explanation accounting for known facts or phenomena: Einstein's Theory of Relativity.

Although the "big picture" biology paints is a beautiful mosaic...

Other isotopes of carbon and other elements with know half lives are used.

As for the different results...the samples were different, even if they were the same. Anytime you are isolating a compound, much less a decomposing isotope, it is very difficult to be exact (here again the laypersons idea of precision and accuracy has very little to do with science) It is a skill that some are better at than others.

Another thing that the layperson does not get is that the vast majority of scientists (with the notable exception of the cooks who put out the ID video) do not have some evil agenda to manipulate public policy. The truth as the data presents itself, is what it is, nothing more. A scientists job is to collect and analyze the data objectively (this too is a skill) and report what is found...the mass of this trial and error is tested and re tested in hope of proving it wrong...without doing so we are left with very little...like #7 & 8. It is through this scrutinization (faithless I will add) over lifetimes that eventually something has the possibility of being elevated to the ranks of THEORY! The only thing beyond that is LAW...like gravity.

#1 from above: NO the failure of man to report the message accurately...makes the message inaccurate.

#2 Unicorns and Leprechauns...are unfathomable

#3 No god is not a religion...It is something very good and loving, only spelled backwards.

#4 having a trained dog is not (only) about protecting it...it is about controlling it and getting it to do what you want, when you want, and how you want it done....without question. Sheeple take longer to train...I prefer the Dog.

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If god truly wanted to be worshiped by millions, surely he must have an a huge ego, someone that powerful and almighty needs his balls licking everyday? Then kills inocent people, I dont think so. Sounds like a korean leader to me.

I can't + Rep you Hayduke, but your post definitely deserves it!

Thanks for taking the time to respond to that, I was about to do the same thing! Same old shit, different author, different forum..

The stuff he said about carbon dating is ridiculous! Lay off the Kent Hovind lectures bro!

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There's a difference in something being unfathomable and not existing, whereas Unicorns and Lepecorns don't exist but are very much fathomable, according to the Theory of evolution......... Somebody being able to put their foot up their own Ass is closer to being unfathomable, but yet, its a frequent recurring fathom....

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