Like I said, Evolution is a fact, the mechanism is a theory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evoluti...heory_and_fact

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interesting article from wiki.

unfortunately, the article does not even site one example of data from any fossil records to show evolution as fact. it does attempt to mistakenly sight subjective observations as objectivism.

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Whenever someone asks for proof that evolution occurs, I usually point to this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking_catfishThe walking catfish is a fish which has adapted to its environment by evolving the ability to walk on its fins for short distances to find more water.It tends to live in seasonal puddles and ponds, and sometimes that water will dry up or become devoid of food.It is in the middle of the transition to land animal.
Even if you look at apes, you can see that they are most definitely in the same genus as us.Evolution isn't saying we're descended directly from these apes, just that we share a common ancestor.
Just look at Neanderthal man... not homo sapiens sapiens,but certainly related. Their DNA is slightly different.
Science and religion are at odds because one, science,seeks to question and disprove itself in order to eliminate faulty data and reach the real truth. The other, religion,wants you to believe in what it teaches without question and without proof.It seeks to place all human minds into a mindset which does not deviate,nor even conceive of any other ideology but the one they have been taught.
If anything, anyone who will not at least admit the possibility that there is evolution is doing themselves a great disservice.Because nature teaches us that change is constant and inevitable.Those who do not change, die.By refusing to question things,by not actively ADAPTING your mind to admit to the possibility there is no benevolent being tending the fire at the end of the universe,you are stagnating.Holding yourself back.And religion has accomplished its goal.To make you afraid,and therefore,controllable.Sorry for the rant.

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So true stoney....

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And hey, I'm willing to admit, I COULD be wrong. But I CHOOSE to believe in science and evolution because it makes sense to me,and it doesn't seek to tell me that it is irrefutably correct.

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hi, stoney


the problem with this is that one has to assume it is a "transitional species" as appose to "just a species."

if one were to use the fossil records and go back in time they would see walking fish then as we see them today, if fish walked walk millions of years ago and they can walk today then it's a species (not transitional)

a good example of this is the Coelacanth fish which was said to be a transitional fish species having limbs, walked... etc. they lived 416 to 359.2 million years ago, until, they found the same exact fish today living having not evolved at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coelacanth

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i don't know, but leaning towards created since fossil records disprove evolution.

i am certain of this, we as humans are getting more and more stupid, violent & destructive as time goes by, de-evolving to what we should not be. for as long as we have been on earth we still can't get along.

But when you go back in the fossil record, you DO see that humans did NOT live at the same time as Dinosaur.Which is what creationists forcefully assert, the 6000 year theory.Evolution doesn't claim to have all the answers.But Creationism does.All you have to do is suspend disbelief indefinitely. So...even if you don't believe in evolution, you have to admit Science does exist.And science teaches us critical thinking.It teaches us if a theory does not hold up to scrutiny, discard it. Creationism does not hold up to scrutiny.

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And here's a good read on transitional fossils. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-...rt1a.html#tran

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this is being debated today whether humans lived in that time period. if you search "footprint fossils" you'll see several images of human footprints next to dinosaurs.

for the record, I AM NOT SAYING I BELIEVE THIS, just pointing something out

http://www.subversiveelement.com/Fos...ootprints.html

many creationist do not believe this because the bible says "1000 years to God is like 1 day, & 1 day is like a 1000 years." meaning, time is not the same time as we think it to be. many creationists believe the 6 day creation story were periods of millions of years.


science is just as much a religion as Christianity is, same type of fanatics, dogmas, spouting incontrovertible truths

i certainly do not have the answers

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