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Old 07-13-2009, 08:53 PM
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Going back to the main theme of the thread...

I don't believe there should be much argument on how weed got here. The information is out there and all logical signs point to evolution and the big bang. All the questions of "who created the big bang?" and "why are we here?" are trivial.
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Yes TBT, the operative word being cult. Imagine trying to explain the Bible to a young adult for the very first time... with no preconditioning . In just a few generations, the Bible would be an oddity.
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I would like just one evolution denier give a reasonable creationist explanation of Human Chromosome number 2.
This fusion of ape chromosomes found in the human genome is solid evidence of common ancestry. In fact finding these fused chromosomes was a prediction based in evolution, something that the creationists claim cannot be done.
The evidence for evolution is overwhelming if you just take the time to look. We can use genetics to trace lineage far back in the evolutionary tree, showing which species are related and which ones ended up in a separate branch.

Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution.
--Theodosius Dobzhansky (
1900-1975) Russian geneticist and evolutionary biologist


Evolution is the GUT (GRAND UNIFYING THEORY) of biology. It is the bedrock principle of our scientific understanding of the natural laws that govern life. Furthermore, it is logically necessary for life's survival in a changing world environment. To deny this scientific principle is analogous to believing that the earth is the center of the universe!
--Dr. J. William Schopf,
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These quotes are significant because all of biology today is evolutionary. Every scientific and medical advance that is made, only could have occurred with evolution in mind. The fact is that science itself is self-correcting and self-confirming. If the science was wrong, the results of the science would not work. You would not be typing on your computer and benefiting from modern medicines if the basic theories of science were incorrect. Germ theory, atomic theory, cosmology, as well as evolutionary theory are all supported to be accurate models of the way things actually work by the very fact that we have technology based on them.

A preacher thundering from his pulpit about the uniqueness of human beings with their God-given souls would not like to realize that his very gestures, the hairs that rose on his neck, the deepened tones of his outraged voice, and the perspiration that probably ran down his skin under clerical vestments are all manifestations of anger in mammals. If he was sneering at Darwin a bit (one does not need a mirror to know that one sneers), did he remember uncomfortably that a sneer is derived from an animal's lifting [of] its lip to remind an enemy of its fangs? Even while he was denying the principle of evolution, how could a vehement man doubt such intimate evidence?
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If every fossil were magicked away, the comparative study of modern organisms, of how their patterns of resemblances, especially of their genetic sequences, are distributed among species, and of how species are distributed among continents and islands, would still demonstrate, beyond all sane doubt, that our history is evolutionary, and that all living creatures are cousins. Fossils are a bonus. A welcome bonus, to be sure, but not an essential one. It is worth remembering this when creationists go on (as they tediously do) about "gaps" in the fossil record. The fossil record could be one big gap, and the evidence for evolution would still be overwhelmingly strong. At the same time, if we had only fossils and no other evidence, the fact of evolution would again be overwhelmingly supported. As things stand, we are blessed with both.
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have a quick research ona pygmy munchin whatever u wanna call it lol it was found in the indonesian islands a few years ago im sorry i cant give to much more info than that i was pretty ripped when i seen the doco but it pokes a few large holes in the evolutionary chain im not sayin evolution isnt tru but u mite find that stuff interestin if u can find it:P found a link that explains a tiny bit about it http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...resiensis.html
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have a quick research ona pygmy munchin whatever u wanna call it lol it was found in the indonesian islands a few years ago im sorry i cant give to much more info than that i was pretty ripped when i seen the doco but it pokes a few large holes in the evolutionary chain im not sayin evolution isnt tru but u mite find that stuff interestin if u can find it:P found a link that explains a tiny bit about it http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...resiensis.html

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This chart depicts one view of the evolution and worldwide dispersal of the genus Homo. The new species, Homo floresiensis, is part of the Asian dispersals and is believed to be a long-term, isolated descendant of Javanese H. erectus, though it could be a recent divergence. The evolutionary history of Homo is becoming increasingly complex as new species are discovered.
This pic explains that it's just an isolated species of Homo from 18K years ago. Being on an island could create a number of different types of homo sapiens, this one just happened to be small, I don't think that says anything against the theory of evolution.
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I think God created the Evolution Machine.... It's not Nature vs. Nurture... It's a degree of both, kind of thing....
And why are we so full of ourselves to think that we are it and everything is about us humans? The human body, as perfect as it is, HAS flaws. But I think the evolution system that God created will take care of that in due time. I believe that God created us for a purpose (and not one so petty that we can understand ourselves).
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This pic explains that it's just an isolated species of Homo from 18K years ago. Being on an island could create a number of different types of homo sapiens, this one just happened to be small, I don't think that says anything against the theory of evolution.
Exactly, isolation is what drives selection. Who claims that this pokes holes in evolution? Oh, let me guess, ICR, AiG, or Hovind.
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i like the first post.. saying god created everything through evolution.... sounds cool

personally it was evolution.

god is something made up by people who are too afraid to die. afraid that they wont live anymore.. so they make up some bogus shit to make their mind at ease. It makes me angry how people kill other people over what their mind is too ignorant to comprehend. "Im going to kil lyou because u think god is a fat bald indian... no im going to kill u cuz u think hes an old carpenter with a beard "

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