Wow I didn't noticed there was this section on the form, I just don't understand why put philosophy marijuana and religions all toghether


Well I used to believe so many unimaginable things for many, like:

That anything is a dream
That anything is a fruit of my mind and I could control things just by thinking
That people are being played like in a videogame by a sadistic entity or for no matters
Even that we are part of a movie were I am the main character or that I had just a role and the more good I do the more benefits I would get...
Then I had the suspect that people around me knew it and I was being tested by them for something

and every time I tried to go deeper on my thoughts PUFF everything gets confused and then I forget what I was thinking about.

Now it's all clear to me. God does not exists, it's that infinity thing, there's infinite universes and I believe life is completely senseless if not for the individuals.

But I may be wrong (:

Religion is the abdication of responsibility.If you believe everything happens for a reason, and that it's god's will,basically you're saying you're not responsible for your own actions;that everything is preordained.You're asking an invisible man to make things better for you because you've lost all hope in yourself, in the one person who truly can change your circumstances.Because, as I said,if god allowed these things to happen to prove a point, he's childish and spiteful-a sadist.Would you make a bet on one of your own children against an evil persona which was about to do him harm to prove he could make him angry at you because you didn't step in and help him?I hope not.Does that mean you are more merciful than this god?And if he's omnipotent, he already knew what the outcome would be, so there was no reason for him to make Job go through it.
As for creationism being taught in schools, creationism doesn't hold up to scientific scrutiny.That's why in Kansas they're trying to change the definition of what a scientific theory is.There is a clear separation of church and state, and they are trying to overcome it.They don't want the Egyptian creation beliefs taught;nor Buddhist, Wiccan, Greek...just THEIRS,which is Christian.It's not in the interest of fairness at all.Then it isn't the word of an omnipotent god.It is the word of men, and men of their times.It is contradictory and erroneous.It's like people thousands of years from now unearthing a copy of the wizard of oz and proclaiming that their holy book.Right.Join the flock,conform,be like the rest of us.Learn to fear this invisible boogeyman we tell you exists,so we can dictate your actions in this life.And if you don't have the capacity to understand an infinite being in regards to why he allows things to happen, how can you believe that those who wrote the bible had any better understanding of him or it?So it's a piecemeal religion?You get to just take what you want and ignore the rest?I've seen that happen;ever heard of the guy from the "God hates fags" website?
Let me get this straight...you recognize the logic is faulty.You know the bible contradicts itself.You have never had any physical proof of this God...he's never spoken to you personally,nor has anyone ever proven there was a great flood, that the earth was created in 6000 years,that Jesus was an ACTUAL person...but you still choose to believe.Who said there needs to be an alternative religion?Hedging your bets is kinda cowardly, IMO.You don't want to think of the possibility that you are merely an organism,that you're not any more special than any other mammal on this earth, so you choose to take a pill you can't quite swallow all the way just to be safe?
If there must be an alternative...how about logic, and common sense?How about demanding proof instead of accepting tradition?How about thinking for yourself, and thinking critically?
Thereason I don't present my beliefs is because I really have none.I prefer logical, tangible evidence.I know that I AM.That's all I know for certain.I know that I am the one who controls my destiny.I know that one day I will cease to exist in this form, but I will go on...because I will return to the earth, and from my carcass, plants will spring up,and worms,and gases, and things will come along and feed off of those,and continue on in their own life cycle.This I know for certain.Where my consciousness goes,I don't know.My thoughts are possible because of my brain,and the body it resides in.FACT.When my brain is gone, it's likely my thoughts will be, too.Fine.But even though I'm not recognizable as "me",I'll still go on in that I am a part of the natural cycle.That's what I believe, because that is what I KNOW to be true.

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stoney....looks like you got this multi-qoute shit wired down pretty good.. LOL.. I woudn't know where to begin dissecting the qoutes good job!!

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You just copy and paste the front part......[ quote=Dr. Greenhorn;2466984 ]
Without the spaces, in front of the text you want to separate, then, at the end of the paragraph, you copy and paste this part without the spaces....[ / quote ]

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Your putting a negative spin on every aspect of religion. Nothing we are doing is hurting anyone else. I do not accept that this is it and everything just happened by coincidence there's is less of a chance of that than my religion. Religion is not an abdication of responsibility there is still cause and effect. Some people take the approach that there is destiny involved and if things happen a certain way than it is "God's Will" but that is total bullshit, God gave us a free will so we can think for ourselves and decide whether we want to do what is right or wrong. Freedom of Choice.

Who says our God is loving and wouldn't hurt any of his own, I don't claim that. Throughout the entire Old Testament when people pissed him off they were killed. God has his own agenda and it will unravel as he desires, I really don't care that you find that to be spiteful/sadist, in the end it's not you that I have to answer to.

It is the word of men who were said to be inspired by God. They interpreted his messages the only way they could comprehend how to. You're reaching with the Wizard of Oz statement. (Maybe Harry Potter)

My actions have yet to be dictated. I am still free to turn away from God whenever I like. I am choosing to believe. Call it whatever you want it still remains freedom of choice. Besides, everybody else is doing it.

Well those men were said to be inspired and filled with the Holy Spirit, which is the third part of the Christian God Tripod. So their understanding was an interpretation of what God was saying to them.

Piecemeal huh? I never said I didn't follow all rules to the best of my abilities, I just place more emphasis on the actual message of Jesus instead of the dos and don'ts. I maintain my beliefs while allowing myself the freedom to think for myself. Citing a radical who took the message of God and turned it into something it wasn't meant to be does not impress me. People have done that throughout history.

I was recognizing the faults of the individuals within the organization AKA the paritioners not the faults with the religion itself. You know well enough that the Faith defense will be played with the proof of God argument so why bring it up? You have no proof to discredit the existance of Jesus so saying I have no proof that he does is just a bad argument. We both can pull up tons of different sources that support and don't support his existance. We both are more than capable of coming up with reasons to disqualify each source. So after all that, yeah I still choose to believe, At least now you've got it straight.

I choose to believe because I think that I am more than an organism. I am not a mindless sheep who was brought up in the faith taught never to question what he believes. I do think for myself and make my own decisions. I do not believe that this "life cycle" was a big mysterious bang that just so happened to make us the only truly intelligent life form on the planet. You are more than welcome to be worm food if you like, but I've got bigger plans.

I understand your logic. It all comes down to faith. Without it I would be sitting the same as you. We aren't that different, I just choose to believe and you choose not to.

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hey bro....you got it going on too

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ok stoney i admit its very skeptical info. you mention we would see it with infared scopes, and we have 1rs in the 80 was launch and was the first to report the presence of a large celestial body. now some think it is different things some say its a brownstar or meteor. if you go to google sky and look in bottom right of the leo constellation it is visible for you to see. for me we should all be able to see it in the sky by years end and that seeing with my own eyes with tell me the truth.

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another compelling fact is the knowledge of the sumerian and myan, plus other cultures vast knowledge of the stars. such as the one i mentioned last time. the sumerian tablet with the solar system as it is with a ten planet, and they new the color of several planets when it took our own technology till the 1930s to confirm these findings.maybe they are coincidence but its very interesting.

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But it is hurting us if a religion insists upon interfering with the education of out children.Promoting ignorance is doing harm.The catholic church covering up the rape of children is doing harm. The church burning people in medieval times for proclaiming the world was not flat was doing harm.It has held science back,women back,minorities back, for years.Who is to say where we would be if we didn't bear the yoke of superstition?And how so YOU KNOW god gave you free will? Or anything?Where is your proof outside of the Bible?Has he spoken to you directly?

So...it's "God's will?

Now you're just arguing semantics by panning my choice of booki.SUbstitute whatever title you like, the end result of the argument is the same.

Then believe.Just leave my children's education OUT of it.

"Were said to be?"Who said?Them? Who else?

Yes people have done that throughout history.Creationism is another incarnation of just that.Here's a handy pocket list of some of the do's and don't of the bible.Amusing, but true.Please don't tell me Jesus was all about love;he preached on many occasions the exact messages of his father.http://exchristian.net/pics/wallet%20bible1.pdf
http://exchristian.net/pics/wallet%20bible2.pdf

Plenty of proof.There is no historical record of him.Period.None that cannot be proved a forgery.The ROMANS WERE METICULOUS RECORD KEEPERS.There is no mention of Jesus being executed by Pontius Pilate by the Romans.The only proof any crationists can ever cite is the bible.And using the bible to prove the validity of the bible is kinda silly.

So, if the big bang never happened,who created god?Did he just arrive out of nothing?According to creationsists, that simply can't happen, at least when they're referring to the Big Bang.So it has to apply to a creator as well.Did you used to be Tronica?I'm sorry, I simply don't believe it.If it were supposed to be here in 2012, as everyone says,we'd already be noticing it's gravitational effects.There's always an end of times scenaria every few years, and I've never believed any of them,because they're full of holes.

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Their calenders ended at 2012 simply because they stopped counting.It would start over, something mathematical, gives me a headache, it's easily googled.

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