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Old 07-04-2007, 04:38 AM
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"thats exagtly it 2 manifestations of the same thing, and considering that most "real" science evolved from metaphisics...However, didnt Einstine already prouved that energy and matter are one and the same? I mean you can easily transform one into another, much like the chicken and the egg..."

Even more difficulties - much of this comes down to how small of parts do you want to deal with? We can take it down to atoms, or even subatomic particles, however, there are many kinds of atoms, and many kinds of subatomic particles. If you go as far as science can (currently) everything can be represented by pure energy, still, here, though, there are different "sorts" of energy, ie, you can classify this energy into various sorts.

As for "real" science evolving from metaphysics.... sort of. The term metaphysics was coined by Aristotle, and really doesn't mean anything. Literally it's "after-physics" because we find Aristotle's metaphysics after his physics in his writing. And there was most certainly science before Aristotle wrote, though the subjects contained in his Metaphysics were addressed before Aristotle wrote as well - by Socrates, all the way back to Thales, and arguably by every spiritual teacher, too. Science consists of topics originally addressed by philosophers, subjects moving to sciences as they develop to a point where claims can be tested. Psychology is a recent topic of philosophy-turned-science. Now philosophy of the mind is becoming a science, with many philosophers emerging as the leading scientists in the field (though, philosophy of the mind is closely related to psychology and, I think, will end up merged with the subject).

Now I forgot what my original point was going to be..... damn.... maybe I'll think of it later.
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gee whiz... you guys got it all wrong!!

ok, you all know about how aliens brought us here as slaves and all, well, here's the story of the chicken and the egg...

the aliens were getting tired of their microwave dinners, and decided to engineer a new food item. they found that the most efficient shape to cook was an eliptical form, so the made this new food round.

there was a big debate about the interior of the cooking hull (later called a "shell"); half of the aliens wanted a white rubbery filling, whilst the others wanted a yellow filling.

so, they decided to combine the two. and thus, the egg was formed.

now, on earth, the atmospheric natures and bacterias were all funky, and some eggs got left out at picnics and such... and then, the eggs developed life forms inside!

that's the long and short of the chicken and the egg

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