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Old 06-29-2007, 12:25 AM
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A subject never far from anyone's mind, even when we think we've forgotten, it is a thought that will always be there.


There are many on this site that are afraid (sorry if this seems insulting) of death. I suppose, deep, deep down I am one of them. Unless you TRULY believe in some sort of god, we are all doomed to become worm food. Well we are ALL doomed to become worm food, it's just that the religous amongst you don't realise it yet.

I believe in human energy. We are alive, and we give off energy. Is this a soul?

Buddhists will have you believe that the self and thought are two separate things. This would also indicate belief in a soul.

Although I know that the self is merely one thought, there are those that believe it is something more... divine(?).

I have been unconscious twice in my life. UNCONSCIOUS, look at the very word... WITHOUT CONSCIOUSNESS. This is deeper than sleep. YOU are quite simply dead, yet your body is still alive. This is not a place of dreams, it is not even a place of memory or time, it is no place at all.

We can experience death quite easily by making ourselves unconscious. This is truly without thought. Any of you that have been lucky enough to experience this (especially if you were out for longer than 10 mins) will have experienced death, or at least a taste of. You remember nothing because there isn't anything to remember. You wake up, memory comes back quite quick and the last thing you remember is the point just before lights out. The mind, shuts down.
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Old 06-29-2007, 12:37 AM
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very true ive been unconscience a few times and it is a very wierd yet nice feeling. you do sort of get an idea of what it would be like to be dead, you may be out for less than a minute and it feels like an eternity, you wake up and feel like youve been out all night. you feel disoriented, you have memory loss, you may even wake up and not even realize how you got there in the first place but all in all it is a very eye opening experience
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i had an experence not so long ago before my nan passed away, she was in hospital after a bad fall aged 95,she recovered and whilst being in hospital, tried to go toilet through the night on them whealchairs with loo's on. the nurse didn't put the brakes on so wen she sat down she fell again, breaking her hip!!! could this get any worse, she needed surgery because of this. just about pulled through it, When i went to see her after she was saying weird things like she has seen the other side and to watch out for certain people.don't be affraid she say's holding my hand i'll be there one day. i try not to think about death to much, i just don't wanna leave behind people i love. and not being able to see wat becomes of my family. im only 26 so hopefully got a long time left. but i guess wen its time to go its time to go!

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I believe in human energy. We are alive, and we give off energy. Is this a soul?
OK, when I fart, it gives off energy. Is my fart's energy a soul?

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UNCONSCIOUS, look at the very word... WITHOUT CONSCIOUSNESS. This is deeper than sleep. YOU are quite simply dead, yet your body is still alive. This is not a place of dreams, it is not even a place of memory or time, it is no place at all.
Even when you're unconscious your brain is still functioning. You're still alive. I don't agree that this is a good example of experiencing death. But I guess it's the closest thing we have.
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Your brain, yes... but consciously you are dead. Isn't this the most important?

There are machines that can keep our heart beating, yet we have no consciousness. Is this still life?

We are our consciousness, without it we are dead. It makes no difference if our bodies are still alive as it and the brain are merely a home for OURSELVES. Which is conscious thought.
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[quote=4theist20;181264]OK, when I fart, it gives off energy. Is my fart's energy a soul?


Yes. It is the soul of your digested food.
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So what about when someone is so polaxed that they are not conscious of thier actions, and have no memory of what they had done ?
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OK, when I fart, it gives off energy. Is my fart's energy a soul?



Even when you're unconscious your brain is still functioning. You're still alive. I don't agree that this is a good example of experiencing death. But I guess it's the closest thing we have.
yea i agree..the closest thing to being dead is..being dead and brought back..untill we die we cant compare it to anything....
i do believe in God..but not the Bible..i believe in a supreme being somewhere out there..your right skunk all humans have energy but what happenes to that energy when we die?does it die with us?i dunno..i wish i knew..i like to think that your energy never dies..whether it goes to a spiritual place or exists through the people we knew while we were alive..while our bodies might go to become worm food i believe the good part of us goes somewhere deserving...at least i hope
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Im no scientist....correct me please if Im wrong....But isnt energy constant? It may change or be redirected or stored...but isnt it a constant? I remember in science classes discussing this. All my instructors taught that energy was constant...its not created...nor does it disappear.

If thats the case...when you die....your soul or energy goes into something else. Maybe another baby being born....or maybe a tree. Who knows. But going by the theory that energy is constant.....its going somewhere on this physical plane....as this is where energy resides.

Maybe thats why those who believe in reincarnation believe the way they do.

Deep question, Skunk......good post.
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In all honestly, I think our consciousness is part of our brain. I think Francis Crick (credited for finding the shape of DNA and whatnot) wrote a book and did a lot of studies trying to prove this (he had some good evidence but died before coming to any real conclusion i think... i may be wrong). From what I can gather, death is just like getting knocked out, except for the waking up part. But who knows
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