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Old 07-02-2007, 07:32 AM
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just think about it for a moment. i really cannot be bothered explaining again what I've already written. If you don't get it now, then you never will.
i dunno it seems like a bad example to me..its hard for me sometimes to get people without actually being face to face thats why i asked.
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i am not afraid of death at all. fuck death. when it happens, i wont be conscious of anything at all.

my loved ones will be sad at the loss of one of the nicest, coolest, most attractive person they know, but that's their problem not mine.

live out loud, the largest you can while your alive and it won't bother you a bit.

i am a little discombobulated at the thought of being in a coma or worse, a vegitative state...aware but unable to move or communicate. that would suck WAY worse then death.

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Old 07-04-2007, 10:18 PM
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I've never been afraid of death, and I'm not trying to sound high and mighty, but I've always thought it was weird when people say they're afraid of it. I believe there's something after death, but I also believe in reincarnation. Like a person dies, goes somewhere... while they look after their loved ones they left behind, then they come back. I guess lol.
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Your brain, yes... but consciously you are dead. Isn't this the most important?

There are machines that can keep our heart beating, yet we have no consciousness. Is this still life?

We are our consciousness, without it we are dead. It makes no difference if our bodies are still alive as it and the brain are merely a home for OURSELVES. Which is conscious thought.
no if you are without concience then i would say your that your a vegetable, and who knows what that is?... its a mentally retarded person incapable of wiping its own ass... yes definitly the closest a human being can come to death without actually being there, no offense to anyone i have mentally retarded people in my family, just stating my opinion
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Correction on the statement regarding Buddhism in the first post:

Self and thought are not two different things. Thought is a tool of the self (this is very similar to what Schopenhauer was talking about when he said that intellect is a tool of the will). Buddhists also introduce a third thing, the true self - what you actually are apart from your ego (ego, or the self, which would include the tools thereof, including your physical body).
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Correction on the statement regarding Buddhism in the first post:

Self and thought are not two different things. Thought is a tool of the self (this is very similar to what Schopenhauer was talking about when he said that intellect is a tool of the will). Buddhists also introduce a third thing, the true self - what you actually are apart from your ego (ego, or the self, which would include the tools thereof, including your physical body).
My leg is a tool of my body, yet they are still different things. I can lose my leg but still have my body.
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I hate to discuss politics or religion, but here goes.
All my life, (I am almsot 60 years old) I've been a TRUTH SEEKER, and I own and have read several hundred books on this very subject.
I would suggest that anyone who read at least 3 or 4 books on Reincarnation, I mean really read 3 or 4 DIFFERENT books on Reincarnation, they would then accept it. It's easier to talk about Death and God and Life After Death in generalizations, but if you really read and research the subjects in depth with open minds, instead of having the attitude of "well, I heard that blah, blah, blah" then I say TRUTH can be found.

For example I see mightly oak trees die and come back to life in cycles. I suggest that we or our souls or spirits, I should say, do too.
I've read dozens of books on past life regressions and people being hypnotised and told to recall being in the womb before birth. They always describe being in the mother's belly, the floating, hearing the heartbeat, etc. Then they are asked to describe BEFORE being in the belly, and they always have an answer, even if they are non -believers. They can always recall a previous life time! Why ? How?
I've tripped on LSD and mushrooms and peyote buttons hundreds of times, and I saw there exist other realities, other worlds, and other diminsions. I've had dozens of "out of the body" experiences too, to realize that "I" or the "me" can leave this body and still exist.
Just like the DREAM WORLD while we sleep is one reality, there are other realities, and some of those are while we are alive and conscious, some are alive and unconscious, but some are after death.

I am certain I have lived before, I paid $250 in 1979 to be hypnotised and reminded of my past lifes. That was an amazing awesome experience and it explained some of the reasons I am like what I am like now.
I am certain I will live again after death too.
I have Faith based on KNOWLEDGE and Experience and Education. I sort of feel sorry for those that do not have that Faith. I have read that FAITH is believing in the unseen, but I have seen and I do belevie.

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Old 07-05-2007, 07:36 AM
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I am not the least bit religious but I do strongly believe in GOD. We are all just energy and energy can't be destroyed. It just changes form. I believe being unconscious is nothing like death. I've experienced both unconsciousness and death and they are like nothing alike. With death you no longer have an ego but you have ultimate consciousness and you are most accutely aware that you are not only in the presense of God but become part of that devine energy. I don't fear death. I fear people and how I am going to die.
It's not something easy to explain but others that have experienced it know what I am talking about.
I have always found this subject fascinating.
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:38 AM
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I also believe in reincarnation and feel the same.

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Wow Roseman. I am so with you on this. I also have experienced the same while doing various drugs and have had out-of-body experiences. I have experienced many levels of consciousness and not only think but know there is another world or life after this one. Believing is having faith in the unknown and unseen but I have experienced enough that I also don't have to go by blind faith alone.
Very impressive reading. I find this topic endlessly fascinating.
It's nice to know others that feel the same.
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All my life, (I am almsot 60 years old) I've been a TRUTH SEEKER, and I own and have read several hundred books on this very subject.
I would suggest that anyone who read at least 3 or 4 books on Reincarnation, I mean really read 3 or 4 DIFFERENT books on Reincarnation, they would then accept it. It's easier to talk about Death and God and Life After Death in generalizations, but if you really read and research the subjects in depth with open minds, instead of having the attitude of "well, I heard that blah, blah, blah" then I say TRUTH can be found.

For example I see mightly oak trees die and come back to life in cycles. I suggest that we or our souls or spirits, I should say, do too.
I've read dozens of books on past life regressions and people being hypnotised and told to recall being in the womb before birth. They always describe being in the mother's belly, the floating, hearing the heartbeat, etc. Then they are asked to describe BEFORE being in the belly, and they always have an answer, even if they are non -believers. They can always recall a previous life time! Why ? How?
I've tripped on LSD and mushrooms and peyote buttons hundreds of times, and I saw there exist other realities, other worlds, and other diminsions. I've had dozens of "out of the body" experiences too, to realize that "I" or the "me" can leave this body and still exist.
Just like the DREAM WORLD while we sleep is one reality, there are other realities, and some of those are while we are alive and conscious, some are alive and unconscious, but some are after death.

I am certain I have lived before, I paid $250 in 1979 to be hypnotised and reminded of my past lifes. That was an amazing awesome experience and it explained some of the reasons I am like what I am like now.
I am certain I will live again after death too.
I have Faith based on KNOWLEDGE and Experience and Education. I sort of feel sorry for those that do not have that Faith. I have read that FAITH is believing in the unseen, but I have seen and I do belevie.
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