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I need more information on your religion. The way I see it, it must have some credence. Otherwise, why is it constantly being attacked?

Also I would like clarification on the differences between Sunni, Shiite, and Sufi. So... please help.
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I need more information on your religion. The way I see it, it must have some credence. Otherwise, why is it constantly being attacked?

Also I would like clarification on the differences between Sunni, Shiite, and Sufi. So... please help.
have you tried wiki and what google gives you? what information are you looking for, i studied world religions for some time, i maybe able to help you.
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Islam is peaceful bro, I didn't beleive in it because of wat happend at 9/11. Because of all the crap that muslims are causing , because of the violence, because of the "suicide bombings". My parents have always been muslims, not strict so i never really got to learn anything about Islam and why it didn't condone all of these above mentioned things. I started studying Islam , not from people, but from the internet, many websites, and even an EDUCATED online Imam (like a preist). Notice how I point out education. I've learned Islam actually FORBIDS killing anyone without reason(not war, revenge, murder, innocent people.etc...) like how the 9/11 attacks were. That's actually AGAINST Islam. Because there were innocent people's lives taken. U see guys, Islam actually condones many things muslims do these days, espically Afganistan. To understand Islam, you have to educate urself , u have to understand the world, its cultures, how people think ,and more importantly , other peoples beleives. How do u expect someone to respect your beleifs when u give no value to theirs?? It's what most muslim countries suffer from... Illitrate people, who can't get an education, who don't understand Islam, and more importantly, study it's TRUE facts. Islam emphizes on education (which many muslim countries lack) . You shouldn't judge a religion by its people, you should judge a religion by its teachings.

I'm still a student learning about Islam and hope to receive all comments and ideas from everyone


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Oh and here's the answer to the question about the Sunni/Shia difference:

http://islam.about.com/cs/divisions/f/shia_sunni.htm

The division between Shia and Sunni dates back to the death of the Prophet Muhammad, and the question of who was to take over the leadership of the Muslim nation. Sunni Muslims agree with the position taken by many of the Prophet's companions, that the new leader should be elected from among those capable of the job. This is what was done, and the Prophet Muhammad's close friend and advisor, Abu Bakr, became the first Caliph of the Islamic nation. The word "Sunni" in Arabic comes from a word meaning "one who follows the traditions of the Prophet." On the other hand, some Muslims share the belief that leadership should have stayed within the Prophet's own family, among those specifically appointed by him, or among Imams appointed by God Himself.
The Shia Muslims believe that following the Prophet Muhammad's death, leadership should have passed directly to his cousin/son-in-law, Ali. Throughout history, Shia Muslims have not recognized the authority of elected Muslim leaders, choosing instead to follow a line of Imams which they believe have been appointed by the Prophet Muhammad or God Himself. The word "Shia" in Arabic means a group or supportive party of people. The commonly-known term is shortened from the historical "Shia-t-Ali," or "the Party of Ali." They are also known as followers of "Ahl-al-Bayt" or "People of the Household" (of the Prophet).

Distribution

Sunni Muslims make up the majority (85%) of Muslims all over the world. Significant populations of Shia Muslims can be found in Iran and Iraq, and large minority communities in Yemen, Bahrain, Syria, and Lebanon.
Differences in Religious Practice

From this initial question of political leadership, some aspects of spiritual life have been affected and now differ between the two groups of Muslims. It is important to remember that despite these differences in opinion and practice, Shia and Sunni Muslims share the main articles of Islamic belief and are considered by most to be brethren in faith. In fact, most Muslims do not distinguish themselves by claiming membership in any particular group, but prefer to call themselves simply, "Muslims."

Religious Leadership

Shia Muslims believe that the Imam is sinless by nature, and that his authority is infallible as it comes directly from God. Therefore, Shia Muslims often venerate the Imams as saints and perform pilgrimages to their tombs and shrines in the hopes of divine intercession. Sunni Muslims counter that there is no basis in Islam for a hereditary privileged class of spiritual leaders, and certainly no basis for the veneration or intercession of saints. Sunni Muslims contend that leadership of the community is not a birthright, but a trust that is earned and which may be given or taken away by the people themselves.

Religious Texts and Practices

Shia Muslims also feel animosity towards some of the companions of the Prophet Muhammad, based on their positions and actions during the early years of discord about leadership in the community. Many of these companions (Abu Bakr, Umar, Aisha, etc.) have narrated traditions about the Prophet's life and spiritual practice. Shia Muslims reject these traditions (hadith) and do not base any of their religious practices on the testimony of these individuals. This naturally gives rise to some differences in religious practice between the two groups. These differences touch all detailed aspects of religious life: prayer, fasting, pilgrimage, etc. For more detailed information about the historical context of the Shia/Sunni split, and modern-day interpretations and repercussions, please visit the links to the right.


Not so sure about Sufism exactly
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have you tried wiki and what google gives you? what information are you looking for, i studied world religions for some time, i maybe able to help you.
Well I don't trust wiki and given the attack against islam the last 8 years i don't really trust internet sources like wiki. I have been doing a little research on my own but i figured i'd talk to actual muslims and i have actually joined another forum and have been learning.

But what is the difference between the sunni and shia...idk the spelling.
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in my reply above bro...the difference between sunni /shia.
anything specific?


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nevermind i'll just google it lol
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get a Qur'an and read it
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we don't believe in killing heretics. It is only extremists that take the Qur'an literally and start killing. Just like the christans did when the bible told them to stone non-believers. It's taking faith to a new level. It's saying i'm willing to kill my brother in the name of an invisible, mute, and non-existant being. WTF?
 

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