Yeah, science is extremely ambiguous. Everything can be considered as theoretical. I suppose I do say things like that with little conviction simply because it makes sense and it works. I mean, seriously....physics is the study of getting as close as you can....not perfect.....and so is the physicists vs. mathematicians debacle. I suppose it's still up for question....as with all theories, but for now 'no mass' is the accepted and practiced theory. I've spent a good part of my life studying Nuclear Physics and have gotten the opportunity to work and speak with some very brilliant people, from nuclear engineers, to physicists, mathematicians, and even astronomers.....and not once has any of them supported the theory of light having mass. Just my two cents.

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Architects cannot teach nature anything.
- Mark Twain

All said very true, and very much of what I'm trying to express.....a scientist, physiciist, mathematicians, etc.... all operate in a realm of equations, if it can't be figured it doesn't exist......If every person on this planet witnessed an extraordinary event, if no information was gathered or left from the event, it would be explained with an equational fact of what probably did happen and that would be the only credible explanation, period, no matter who, or how many people witnessed it, in their world it didn't happen, because that is what the nature of their business resolves around..........this stance, no matter how sane it seems, is illogical..... it is stagnant and limits progressive understanding (religion also)......so I just simply don't limit myself to thinking science or anything else separately is the bearer of all truth, it's just another tool for observing what already exists.......to look back on our history is all that is needed to understand this.........


So what came first, the Chicken or the Egg


What came first, the Event or the Equation


.....think I said that right, there's my loose change too,

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"He was dead just long enough for the murder rap to blow over. And then he had lunch." - Kujan

The egg came first.

The event came first.

Anything else?

Class dismissed.
out.

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Thanks 4 Agreeing, the Chicken is just the equational after thought.......

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For those who are interested d/load a internet documentary called "The Arrivals" it explains alot on the Anti Christ & what is hidden in regards to the topic.

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The animal which laid the egg was not quite a chicken. A successful mutation within the egg produced the first chicken. Evolution as always.... The egg (chicken) came first.

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You haven't countered nothing, because the points you made are not valid, you are basing your counter on information you don't understand, regardless the accuracy of the information, because it does not state what you are saying.. (Brazko)

oprah is the antichrist!! na she seems like a decent old bird haha. Either way u look at it eveyone's beleifs aside sees and end coming even in science there has to be and end do u think there will be another begining :s sorry bout the spelling! i need to go back to school haha

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"Animals Are Beasts, But Men Are Monsters" ~ Facing the Terror Within

Life & Death...Beginning & End, Exists and is only Perception of Time.....In the beginning (scientifically speaking) time space & yada yada did not exist..So the only beginning & ending I see is Rest/Stillness...This must have been present at the beginning...So meditate and you will find the answer to your new beginning in stillness...Peace be still

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"He was dead just long enough for the murder rap to blow over. And then he had lunch." - Kujan

Heh, don't worry, one day you will be very very still.

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You haven't countered nothing, because the points you made are not valid, you are basing your counter on information you don't understand, regardless the accuracy of the information, because it does not state what you are saying.. (Brazko)

Wowwwww, typical CJ, your so profound...its no worries KuPoodre', Trapp my body, can't trap my Mind, guess who's on lockdown

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"He was dead just long enough for the murder rap to blow over. And then he had lunch." - Kujan