Yeah about that comment---when I first seen this thread I thought you were the author!!! I was mistaken..lol I mistook the last post for being the author. I edited that out of my post as I now realise that Baysmoke is the author

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I showed this to my girl and now she's mad that she can't celebrate her b-day in 2012.......DEC. 21

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If that day is her birthday she might celebrate it like never before!!!!!

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thanks man, well before i start a topic i feel like i should know to some extent what the hell im talking about!

the mayan calender resets (not coincidentally) every 26,000 years called the precession of the equinox, which breaks down to what we call a "long count" which is 1/5 of an equinox.(5,125 years) we are in the final long count which began August 11, 3114 BC ending in, you guessed it 12/21/2012

the long count is broken into 13ths(394 years) called Baktuns.
20ths (256 years broken into 13 Katuns) sometimes refered to as the short count held great significance.
and 260ths (19.7 years/or 7200 days) called a Katun

the "short counts" were significant because that was thier prophecy scale, all the prophecies dates use this 13 Katun cycle. and, like Ernie said, each Katun period has some general "mood" so to say:

Katun 11 Ahau. Niggard is the katun; scanty are its rains . . . misery.
Katun 9 Ahau. Drought, famine.
Katun 7 Ahau. Carnal sin. roguish rulers.
Katun 5 Ahau Harsh his face, harsh his tidings.
Katun 3 Ahau. Rains of little profit, locusts, fighting.
Katun 1 Ahau. The evil katun.
Katun 12 Ahau. The katun is good.
Katun 10 Ahau Drought is the charge of the katun.
Katun 8 Ahau. There is an end of greed; there is an end to causing vexation . . . much fighting
Katun 6 Ahau. Shameless is his speech.
Katun 4 Ahau. The Quetzal shall come . . . Kukulcan shall come.
Katun 2 Ahau. For half the katun there will be bread; for half the katun there will be water.
Katun 13 Ahau There is no lucky day for us.


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Actually I was wrong about 1 thing. The five periods of time were not called katuns but something else, unfortunately I cant remember the exact term.Baysmoke...a little help? The mayans predicted only 5 total. This will indeed be the end of the fourth period and the beginning of the fifth. The katuns were the cycling periods that repeated themselves, and like in the previous post by Baysmoke, had very distinct characteristics about them. We are on the verge of katune #4 which is a very troubled and catastrophic time.

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Rubber Johnny

I'll say this...I wont give any backing to what The Mayans believed. I'll give them credit for being able to get a grip on Astronomy. No easy feat. But they were just one of many to do so.

They picked up on cyclic changes of the cosmos and thats about it. If they could accurately predict the end of the world....they should have been able to predict the arrival of the Spanish....and took steps to deal with them before they got there.

Props for keeping an eye to the sky though.

But did they (The Mayans) actually predict that date as the end of the world.....Or was that the last date found on their calendars and people interpreted it as "their end of the world"?

The mayans DID predict that the spaniards would come, but they thought of these events as greater than themselves and they believed there was nothing they could do about it.

and yes the mayans specifically refer to this date as a huge turning point, a judgemant day. but there are predictions for after this date, meaning they obviously thought some would survive.

they always have shows on this topic on Discovery, see if you can catch one, and if you have On demand see if there are any shows.

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He's right. They did predict many of the events that changed the course of history; and with scary accuracy. They also predicted the pilgrims arriving in New England and the founding of the United States. They thought these changes would come anyway no matter what they did, so therefore they took no action.

The only thing that is strange is the period of time they dissapeared with no explanation. I don't remember exact dates (error: memory loss) but I do know that it was roughly 100 years that they vanished, or rather there is no trace of them in this period. Then they returned as a lower class of people, unlike their previous way of life.

Believe it or not I do not think the alien references have much clout; with regards to their returning and all. But I do think that they are on to something here, and although this is there predicted day of judgement for us all, life will go on, and we will continue to exist afterwards.

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Rubber Johnny

Everyone can name someone or some people that appeared to predict things...but in reality....what difference has it made? The Mayans are a perfect example.

Where has any of their "predictions" come into play with people avoiding some catastrophe or benefiting from "pre-knowledge" of an event? Like most times...hindsight is 20/20.

Can I get the scoop on some major event that should happen BEFORE this world disintergrates? I'd like to capitalize and make some $$$ before it all goes to crap.

Actually I don't put much faith in their exact pedictions, my faith lies in the fact that their calendar is so accurate. Then factor in all the scientific hypothesis about the other celestial happenings, and once again its kinda hard to ignore. However I am not going to trouble myself with worrying about this date because thats just not me. I can't do anything about it.

Perhaps this is why no ones predictions are ever heeded? How can you actually know if a prediction is true until it comes to pass?

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