They have eliminated all the parameters, bladder, feces, escaping air etc. This was a scientific study performed in a hospital with terminal patients. You're sure fighting the premisis without any counter explanation. You know, maybe someone stole his wedding ring at the final moment, Shit happens.

But how did they eliminate all the parameters? How do they know exactly how much urine a person is holding? How did they measure the escaping air or for that matter how much was in this individual to begin with?

It really isn't difficult to fight my corner when the opposition is determined to front fiction as fact.

I wasnt in the room at the time so i really can't tell you how they did it. Like I said, it was a scientific experiment, not a religious one, since you believe in science, you should know that to be accurate, all paramaters must be covered. Maybe they had them in a special tub to contain all the fluids on a set of scales. All I can say is I read the article in the doctors office in a medical magazine, maybe Scientific Journal or something like that. Hey If you don't want to believe there is anything past skin and bones into dirt, have at it. I'm only trying to open your mind. "A mind is like a parachute, it only works when it's open". I don't know who said that but I like it!

From what I know of science, it is often far from accurate. Do you have some more info' on this as I'd like to check it out. Maybe I'll do a search myself, type something like: 'weight loss after death' or something like that.

My mind has been opened many, many times. I have explored with my mind futher than you could ever imagine, and I still do. Just because I have closed my mind to certain avenues of thought does not make my mind closed. I have thought long and hard, read and written. My mind isn't closed, it is reborn.

Into what?

Into a wise and knowing mind. Look at the age of you and you still have a penchant for the fanciful. Age does not necessarily equal wisdom.

And a wise man doesn't do stupid things Ie. become a criminal and spend time incarcerated. I'll agree some wise men went to jail but usually not for being, as you have stated, a common criminal. If you were so wise, maybe you could have avoided prison, just my lowly opinion!

Wisdom comes with age and EXPERIENCE, especially the latter. Experience is also not the be-all and end-all, it also matters what you glean from those experiences. You also shouldn't be too quick judge about prison, you may well end up there yourself. Maybe then a life of crime would help you survive.

You yourself have made the decision to become a criminal, the only difference with me is that i started as a child.

I don't abide with the concept of growing marijuana for medicinal use, is to make me a criminal. I would get a permit, but then you would be registered and easy to find by the U.S. marshals that enforce federal laws that usurp state medical growing laws. I define a criminal as one whom has used or created others demise to further their own interests. IE. burglars, rapists, thieves, murderers, assaulters, politicians, corporate thieves, terrorists, the list is long, but growing marijuana in My state is legal for medicinal purposes, the fact that there are only 600 registered growers in the state, tells me that most people don't trust the govt.

"I define a criminal as one whom has used or created others demise to further their own interests."

Ummm ... in my estimation, that defines a socialist perfectly.

Vi