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skunkushybrid · #**101** 10-27-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ViRedd

"i found that faith followed me, not faith in a god who i knew didnt exist but faith in species. the realisation of my insignifigance was extremely humbling, the notion that we are all one entity was empowering- surely this couldn't be, had i had a non-religious "religious" experience?"

Personally, I honestly don't believe that a person needs "religion" in order to have a spiritual experience. And yes ... I'd say that you had a non-religious, "religious" experience. I've had the same experience as well. The realization that "we" are all one entity is quite remarkable.

Vi

I've had the same realisation, only I've also realised that we aren't there yet.

medicinaluseonly · #**102** 10-27-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by skunkushybrid

I've had the same realisation, only I've also realised that we aren't there yet.

What makes you thunk that? Wars And such, political situations around the globe, Famine , poverty, Yup, there are a few indicators, I guess there is enough sand for the head burriers though, think positive!

Doobie006 · #**103** 10-28-2006, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by big buddy

the validity of any argument should be based on reason and fact, in this case faith is left to the side and hasn't a leg to stand on. you cant argue faith with fact or vice versa because the basis of each are a million miles apart.having said that- i believe in evolution because like it or not it has been proven. as a child i was very involved in the church, i didnt lose my faith until my teens, it was very hard to come to terms with at first but i felt truly reborn when i finally let go. but i found that faith followed me, not faith in a god who i knew didnt exist but faith in species. the realisation of my insignifigance was extremely humbling, the notion that we are all one entity was empowering- surely this couldn't be, had i had a non-religious "religious" experience?
i put it down to faith not being owned by religion or explained by science(yet!) i wont bore you anymore with this, i have basically paraphrased many years of questioning. lets heat this thing up!
alright believers- explain the dinosaurs? how old is our planet? have you heard of the genome project?
plenty more where that came from!

Hey Big Buddy,
I believe we shared very similar experiences. I too felt reborn when I let go of the beliefs that I was programed with as a child. I was liberated from my ignorance. I came into the realization that I didn't need fairy tales to tell me that there's more to life than what we experience. All one has to do is look at the facts, and it becomes clear that reality is stranger and far more amazing than any fairy tale humanity has came up with.

Doobie006 · #**104** 10-28-2006, 01:59 AM

The realization that "we" are all one entity is quite remarkable.

Vi

We are after all not inhabitants of the universe, We ARE the universe. We are made up of it and vice versa. We are in fact, a way for the universe to know itself.

skunkushybrid · #**105** 10-28-2006, 02:52 AM

That's how I felt too. I likened it (in a post on my religion thread) to being reborn. I know exactly what you are talking about. What I meant by us not being there yet was that we have not yet achieved Godhood and ergo total oneness.

medicinaluseonly · #**106** 10-28-2006, 09:16 AM

For one that doesn't believe in God, how could you achieve "Godness"? If you believe in "Godness", you must believe in God, whatever form you see him as. It doesn't make sense to say I don't believe in God But I might reach "Godness"! Either way I'd say we're all a long way from any "Godness" showing up on this planet without some cataclysmic occurence. My only suggestion is to try and live life to the best of our ability and not harm another human being, be generous and Kind, and don't take any wooden nickles!

skunkushybrid · #**107** 10-28-2006, 01:14 PM

I believe that it is man that will be God, not that one already exists.

medicinaluseonly · #**108** 10-28-2006, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by skunkushybrid

I believe that it is man that will be God, not that one already exists.

Now thats an Ego for you, man invents God! There was a philosopher, can't recall his name, That said "If there was no God, Man would invent one", I guess he wasn't lying. My dear friend skunky, I'm afraid it'll be way past our lifetimes before Man and God are one. Can you think of a fraction so small to equate man to God, I'd run out of pages before I could add all the zeros to that fraction. Man has the spirituality inherant in him to get there, but at this time and space it is way too unrefined, we're talking maximum- minimum, this is the war planet. You have to get over war in order to move on. If you still have hate in your heart, My philosophy says you keep coming back untill you can break free of it. I'm getting real sick of war, but don't know whether I've gotten over it yet or not, I've still got some real hate issues!

ViRedd · #**109** 10-28-2006, 03:06 PM

When the ego dies, God fills the void.

Vi

skunkushybrid · #**110** 10-29-2006, 02:22 AM

God is our future not our present. You guys are still continuing to misinterpret the bible's real message. The bible was written by philosophers... a little like the laughable Nostradamus... anybody can philosophise on the evolution of man, and as history usually repeats itself over and over again it becomes relatively easy to predict the future especially when you do it in parables. Astrologers do it all the time, Tarot Readers, you name it...

True understanding of who and what we really are is the only way forward for man. To continue believing in a God and eternal life in heaven is really not needed anymore. We know right from wrong, the sooner we start being real the better.