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Question Moral Implications
Hey, I'm new to this forum, and in general to the world of intoxicants as well. I smoked weed for the first time this last weekend, and really mellow stuff at that.

A little bit about me...first off, I am a Christian. That word has a lot of dirty connotations to it, so I understand if you've stopped reading this thread as a result of that. I'm not here to rain on anybody's parade, or judge anybody in any way...I'm just trying to figure my own stuff out.

A little about me and my general sense of morality:
I am a senior theology major at a college in the Northwest US. My sense of morality does not, in any sense, come from my country's laws, nor do I think my country's laws should be changed to fit my structure of morality. I believe laws should be set up within countries for the sole sake of order; to prevent murder, theft, etc. I don't agree with abortion, but I don't believe abortion should be made illegal, and the same with regard to other moral ideals imposed by the "Christian agenda." Furthermore, I believe marijuana should certainly be legalized.

I believe my sole sense of morality comes from God. For me this means examining and interpreting scripture first, and then listening to what the church has to say about it. I believe to an extent in following the laws of the local state, but as the world gets smaller this becomes a harder thing to care about (for instance, if my reason for not getting high is because it's illegal here in America, why not just hop on a plane to Amsterdam where it is legal? Or better yet, use my IBS diagnosis to go get a WA state medical marijuana card?)

So, that being said, I'm running out of reasons to not get stoned. At this point, the only real things holding me back from buying a shed and growing a forest are guilt (before God and my parents) and cultural taboo. As you can probably tell from this post, I really haven't had a lot of exposure to weed.

So my dilemma is this: Getting high is a great, amazing feeling. If I'm going to give that up, I don't want it to be because I feel guilty, or because it's some taboo thing. I want my real reason to be conviction before God. And right now I'm just struggling with that trying to find out what the real "right" thing to do is. Any and all thoughts and comments are appreciated, and if ya'll have any questions or comments with regard to Christianity I'd be more than happy to answer them.

Thanks ya'll

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Life's too short to waste it on questions concerning the perception of morality,to me moral's are what keeps a person doing the right thing which is not allways what your taught to believe,being a moral person means letting others live their life the way they choose & without harm upon them.

Dont waste too much timer trying to figure out why you like something,who cares if others in your life dont agree with your choices,do what feels right for you & say to hell with all the rest,its that simple,no more dilema.
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Sometimes we think too much... smoke some more doob... good stuff is wasted on you until you can savour it. It will allow you some more deep thought and honest soul searching.

Re the post above mine (look for the youtube clip of The Gods must be crazy 1) Here you will see at one point they mention the bushmans' believe that God did not put anything bad on the earth, they have a concept of a benevolent god.

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I'm a big fan of cookies...and yeah everything is good...but what about hemlock and other poisons? Just because it's good doesn't mean consuming it is good.

And I feel like living a moral life is more than jumping out of the way of other people. A moral life to me looks like doing the right thing, not just not doing the bad thing. I want to love people and do the right thing.

And I'm torn with what Jesus would have thought. Paul, this guy who wrote in the Bible about church matters after Jesus took off says that people shouldn't get "intoxicated"...but then again the very first miracle of Jesus was to turn water into wine in order to keep a party going.

But yeah, I totally agree that my reasons for choosing to or not to smoke shouldn't be about what other people think of it. There needs to be a deeper reason. I should get some sativa and figure this out haha
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and all things on it and called them good.man has no authority to call what god deems as good as bad.oph
common sense is what a god would say. You know they say god created us to be equal well are we?hell no

if we were we, would be happier, not mention better! Animals fight cause they have not another way of going about doing things meaning resolving problems

we've been made to believe there is not enough simple!
By who? Fucking man
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