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Old 11-22-2008, 12:11 AM
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Default Aliens Exist. Arecibo radio signal sent back.
If you don't believe in aliens dont try to preach anything and enjoy living in the minority.

Arecibo message - Arecibo message - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Arecibo message reply - AMO.NET - We made Contact. - The Arecibo "Crop Formation" reply from extraterrestrial life.

Arecibo message reply - Vigay.com : 403 Error - Access Denied! <-- this link works


Both sites have a bit of contradicting information but its nothing major, id have to say the first link is probably better.


Arecibo Radio Signal Modifications

.............................Human: ........................ET:
Elements for life: .....1 6 7 8 15 .....................1 6 7 8 14
# of DNA strands: ....2 ................................3
Avg. Height: ...........5'9.5" ..........................3'4"
Population: .............4.29 (1974) ..................12.3 (2001)
Planet: ...................Earth ..........................Earth, Mars, Jupiter's Moons
Scale of body: .........small head, long limbs .....big head, small limbs
# of Nucleotides: .....dont know the numbers
Transmitter used: ....Arecibo ........................Crazy ass alien shit
Transmitter
diameter: ...............1000' ...........................2800'


Scroll down on AMO.NET - We made Contact. - The Arecibo "Crop Formation" reply from extraterrestrial life. for some bibliography.


Also i didnt really put this out to talk about it but i guess you can share your opinion of other facts you have, personally im pretty amazed that this has been available since 2001 and in my 2006 guiness world records book it says this this is the biggest signal every sent blah blah blah and that it hasnt been replied to yet which is like 8 years since this crop circle/formation has been discovered.
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Dude, thats fuckin awsome! i can only image if its real, and if it is, its an amazing link to give us more information on other intelligent races
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Cool. They are showing the soul ascending out, from this life to the next.

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I believe they exist. Why crop circles though?

Wouldn't it be better just to send it back the same way?
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I dont know, I read the whole thing. and the part about how some of it looks like the crop circle from chilbolto last time makes me think hoaxish. not 100 percent on what i think though.
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I hate to be the rational one who rains on your parade but lets think about this for a second. You are claiming that in 1974 we fired a coded radio message at the m13 cluster, and in 2001, aliens came here and left a crop circle confirming that they got it?

Lets do some simple math here. M13 is 25,000 light years away from earth, that means it takes light (and radio) waves 25,000 years to get there. Last I checked 2001-1974 was only 27 years.

For the sake of argument lets just say that these aliens just so happened to be in a ship and were within a 13.5 light years sphere of earth and picked up this message. They then figure out where we are and start heading this way. Now the question becomes, how fast can their ship go? Lets say they are SUPER advanced and can build up to very close to the speed of light (can't go the speed of light without infinite mass and energy). To them the trip takes about 30 minutes, but to us it was 13.5 years (well close, probably closer to 20 but lets use "easy math"). So they are now pretty close to earth and observing us.

They know that we know how to use radio and since they understand relativity and would have something like moore's law, they would know that we are way passed radio by 2001. So the logical thing would be either to send a coded radio message back to us, or use a laser. Instead you think that a species capable of close to light travel is going to create a crop circle knowing full well how many hoaxes there are?

Of course this also raises another point. What would they want with us? Have you ever tried to make contact with an ant colony? Or how about try and establish trade with a group of wild Chimps? Short of them needing something that we have on earth (minerals maybe) they have absolutely no reason to make contact with us. The only reason I can think of would be for study or in zoos.

All of that was operating under the assumption that this message was picked up very close to earth. Mostly because the idea of any race spending 50,000 years to contact us seems a bit silly. Now, keep in mind that the people on the ship would only spend a few years or even months on the 25,000 light year trip to earth. However, here on earth and on their home planet it would be a 25,000 year trip each way. I know I don't place a whole lot of faith in the idea that the human species will still be here in 25,000 years. Why the hell would you launch a mission that you know has a very high chance of:

A. Finding nothing
B. Returning to find your civilization that launched it either gone or dead.

Also who goes on this mission? Would you go knowing that there is a 100% chance that everyone you know, all of your family and everyone would be dead by the time you came back? I mean assuming that a "generation" last 100 years (padding a little for advancement in medicine in the future), you are talking about 500 generations before you got home. I mean you could get a girl pregnant, leave, visit a planet for a week, come home, been gone for 10 days and meet your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandchildren.


So ya, this one goes in my BS pile also.
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Good point man, and considering they were radio waves. which travel slower than light, it would take even longer than 25 k light years now that you point it out and i think about it. plus rep
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Good point man, and considering they were radio waves. which travel slower than light, it would take even longer than 25 k light years now that you point it out and i think about it. plus rep
What makes you think radio travels slower than light? They are both electromagnetic rays and assuming you are talking about the vacuum of space there is really no difference.

I have this sitting right behind my desk right now, super interesting.

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What makes you think radio travels slower than light? They are both electromagnetic rays and assuming you are talking about the vacuum of space there is really no difference.

I have this sitting right behind my desk right now, super interesting.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/posters/6b15/


Hmm forgive me if im wrong. I thought it had to due with the frequency and wavelength being different between light and radio waves.
 

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