Hello,I have been a long term smoker ,often daily for about 30 years now. I have also struggled with a serious alcohol problem which has has nearly ruined my life or so it seemed ,many times. Anyhow I gave up booze about 5 months ago,but just caved in twice last week,and got drunk. The second time was simply because I had a six pack in my room from the first time I drank.After I finished that I hit the bars for a few pints. I felt very hungover the next day and got very little done,so I decided to get back on the wagon right away. This time I really think I will make it ,since I know now that I can stay sober even though I still smoke weed. I may also quit smoking weed soon for a while just to give my lungs a break. Before though,once I became an "alcoholic", I thought I needed booze when I got high,but this was just a little voice in my head which may have been amplified simply because I was high. However I realize completely now from my experiences over the last 5 months that I dont need to listen to that stupid voice and I am perfectly capable to resist temptation just as much as anybody. I thought that it was important to post about this because I used to go to 12 step recovery programs like AA which would teach me that there was little chance I could get sober if I still smoked weed. In fact many people there probably regard it as the same thing or worse than alcohol. It is incredibly liberating to finally have a sense of control of my thoughts and actions that were essentially destroying my life.

Im not even saying that I will never drink again by the way. I did sort of enjoy it,I just hated the way I felt in the morning and the fact I didnt want to work much at all that day. It made me respect alcohol in terms of what it does to my body,and my business since I am self employed. I also noticed however as I often do when I am hungover that my libido was in overdrive and the horny feeling only became more intense as the day went on . This was a welcome experience since I have been lacking in this lately and I was becoming concerned a bit about it. http://www.altpenis.com/penis_news/partying_penis.shtml

I think you mite need to get real with the real issue you may have with reality. I personally feel (and this is only my opinion) that most addictions stem from some pain that the addict doesn't wanna address, so we like to numb out.

If you don't deal with why you hafta numb out, you won't 'fix' the problem.


In my case it was trauma at a real early age. I still drink and smoke, but I don't HAVE to, and I don't do the hard shit I used to do. And if I am outta weed, the kids and hubby don't hafta walk on eggshells anymore. But I dealt with the root of the problem. Nobody really helped me, I managed to figure it out on my own with some help from the Kabbalah.

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I once was here, and now I'm not. I went away to smoke some pot. I put this here to prove a point. Life ain't shit without a joint.

I think you are right,and I also believe in a higher power which is helping to guide me through all of this with some kind of purpose. I am also considering quitting weed for a while just to show myself that I can do it. Right now I think I may be psychologically addicted to it,since I feel I need it as soon as I have my first cup of coffee in the morning.Then again sometimes I think I just really want it,and why wouldnt I after all it is weed? Speaking of coffee ,this is another addiction which I have and for me the two go hand in hand. This of course brings me back to my original post since I couldnt imagine smoking weed without booze at one time . Therefore I believe the success I have had with giving up the booze apart from this recent minor slip should give me the strength I'll need to quit or cut back smoking weed+caffeine. I have been seriously thinking about it since I have been such a chronic smoker for so long,and it too has had some negative effects on my life because of my obsession at times with it ,but still not as much as booze for sure .

Question you gotta answer is why do you need it?


I heard a very good life coach once say that all addicts had some real problem with reality, something they just cuddn't live with, and they indulged in thier addictions to avoid dealing with the subject they had such issue with.

Do you have any idea if that is what is buggin you?

Pm me if you are more comfortable that way. I have been there, I can help.

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I once was here, and now I'm not. I went away to smoke some pot. I put this here to prove a point. Life ain't shit without a joint.

I dont believe it has to be one single thing,in fact I think it is more about your attitude towards many things that may happen or have happened in your life. I also think that the older we get the more important it gets to accept the things we cannot not change. I think I am truly learning this concept . There have been way too may things about my past or the present for that matter that I wish were different to just choose one thing,so I just try and get up every day and start with a desire I become a better person somehow,or at least just put in a constructive day where I am taking care of my business so I can support myself and feel good about that bit of my life. There were times in my life when I was on welfare,and even times I had to steal so I could eat or drink,and thank God those days were very long ago,and I have developed some skills which have given me a certain amount of stability in life .

I said "a certain amount of stability" but this could be a poor choice of words because my life is really quite unstable at times. Some times Iam worried about rent,or I am behind in my shipping for my ebay,or I am behind in sleep,or I havent been eating well ,and so I guess if I had to pick one thing that is bugging me at times,its this constant struggle just to stay afloat, and keep healthy in body and mind. Of course I know that if I quit smoking weed I would save about $400 a month,and so have a much better chance of getting ahead or at least not falling behind all the time. One problem for me is that weed is everwhere in my neighbourhood,its like the Amsterdam of Canada in this part of Toronto. I walk by cafes everyday where people smoke legally,and I often go through parks where there is an abundance of weed being smoked or sold. Anyhow if I want to do it bad enough ,I guess I will,and if I dont then I guess I just didnt want it that bad. Anyhow Im getting ready to watch Obamas victory speech. I feel like going to a bar and having a few beers just for this reason,but I better not,after all Ive said here!

Kinda reminds me of when I got 'real' with myself.

I used to blame all my problems on everyone and everything else. I thought my problems with my mom were her fault, my problems with my kids were thier fault, my dad, hubby, friends I had quarrelled with - you name it. But I noticed there was a common element in ALL of my problems. Me.

Turns out it was all my fault. That was a bad thing, if I hadda decided to use this knowledge to further punish myself, and validate every bad thing everyone had ever thought of me, or I could realise that if I created it, then I am the one to fix it, too. I didn't hafta wait for my mom to become the perfect mom, my kids to become the perfect kids, my hubby, dad, you get the picture. So I first started to work on me, as a person, to be who I wanted to be.

Now, I never have had a problem with drinking, tho I am not fond of mean, nasty drunks, nor do I have a problem with smoke. So becoming who I really wanted to be FOR ME didn't mean having to give up these things. Sometimes now we can't afford it, and I hafta do without. If I get tense, I remind myself it isn't really the situation, just me being bitchy cuz I am outta weed, and I apologize to whomever I mitta snapped at and get over it.

The Kabbalah taught me accountability, and gave me a stable core in my being that can withstand anything, now. I am pretty much the same person, I don't let stress, or other people's opinions, or anything else change that core.

You need to develop a strong core. It really helps.

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I once was here, and now I'm not. I went away to smoke some pot. I put this here to prove a point. Life ain't shit without a joint.

thanks for the support puff,I agree with what you are saying. I also think though that it is important simply to realize how badly my drinking was messing up my life,body and mind. I think I am finally at that point. I am soo sick of hangovers,and the way my mind can barely think straight after a night of boozing and little sleep. Ususally I would wake up in the middle of the night and I would ofetn drink and watch tv for a few hours or more until I fell back asleep if I in fact did. Even if I smoke weed all day,I will usually cut back at night,and usually get to sleep ok without waking up with the cold sweats.

my prayers are with you

find something to live for.. it is a sure path to recovery.

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