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Default The Bible and the truth on Ethnogens
People of the theory claim that in Exodus 30:23, "calamus" was actually "kineboisin" - which is a Hebrew word for cannabis, or marijuana. Even some (non-drug using?) Hebrew etymologists (language experts who study the origin of words) have suggested it. With this quote which I took from a confused , ignorant (Not Aware), Minister, I did some studying which I found fairly easy with things being at our fingertips and did some cross referencing; this is what I found in a day. ( I am Spiritual so this just strengthens my beliefs and I ask any of you with time to check it out yourselves.)

Some bible's are different they change the first description Sweet to fragrance Calamus and sometimes change Calamus to Cane. I found 5 instances in the BibleGateway.com: A searchable online Bible in over 100 versions and 50 languages.. here you can find about 20 Bible's to cross reference.

  1. Exodus 30:23
    "Take the following fine spices: 500 shekels of liquid myrrh, half as much (that is, 250 shekels) of fragrant cinnamon, 250 shekels of fragrant calamus,
    Exodus 30:22-24 (in Context) Exodus 30 (Whole Chapter)
  2. Song of Solomon 4:14
    nard and saffron, calamus and cinnamon, with every kind of incense tree, with myrrh and aloes and all the finest spices.
    Song of Solomon 4:13-15 (in Context) Song of Solomon 4 (Whole Chapter)
  3. Isaiah 43:24
    You have not bought any fragrant calamus for me, or lavished on me the fat of your sacrifices. But you have burdened me with your sins and wearied me with your offenses.
    Isaiah 43:23-25 (in Context) Isaiah 43 (Whole Chapter)
  4. Jeremiah 6:20
    What do I care about incense from Sheba or sweet calamus from a distant land? Your burnt offerings are not acceptable; your sacrifices do not please me."
    Jeremiah 6:19-21 (in Context) Jeremiah 6 (Whole Chapter)
  5. Ezekiel 27:19
    and casks of wine from Izal in exchange for your wares: wrought iron, cassia and calamus.
    Ezekiel 27:18-20 (in Context) Ezekiel 27 (Whole Chapter)

That amount on the Cannabis alone was 6 1/4 pounds that was used.
I expanded from their to see how often the anointing Oil that the Cannabis was used in and this is what I found.
  1. Exodus 25:6
    oil for lighting, spices for the anointing oil and for the fragrant incense,
    Exodus 25:5-7 (in Context) Exodus 25 (Whole Chapter)
  2. Exodus 29:7
    "Then you shall take the anointing oil and pour it on his head and anoint him.
    Exodus 29:6-8 (in Context) Exodus 29 (Whole Chapter)
  3. Exodus 29:21
    "Then you shall take some of the blood that is on the altar and some of the anointing oil, and sprinkle it on Aaron and on his garments and on his sons and on his sons' garments with him; so he and his garments shall be consecrated, as well as his sons and his sons' garments with him.
    Exodus 29:20-22 (in Context) Exodus 29 (Whole Chapter)
  4. Exodus 30:22
    [ The Anointing Oil ] Moreover, the LORD spoke to Moses, saying,
    Exodus 30:21-23 (in Context) Exodus 30 (Whole Chapter)
  5. Exodus 30:25
    "You shall make of these a holy anointing oil, a perfume mixture, the work of a perfumer; it shall be a holy anointing oil.
    Exodus 30:24-26 (in Context) Exodus 30 (Whole Chapter)
  6. Exodus 30:31
    "You shall speak to the sons of Israel, saying, 'This shall be a holy anointing oil to Me throughout your generations.
    Exodus 30:30-32 (in Context) Exodus 30 (Whole Chapter)
  7. Exodus 31:11
    the anointing oil also, and the fragrant incense for the holy place, they are to make them according to all that I have commanded you."
    Exodus 31:10-12 (in Context) Exodus 31 (Whole Chapter)
  8. Exodus 35:8
    and oil for lighting, and spices for the anointing oil, and for the fragrant incense,
    Exodus 35:7-9 (in Context) Exodus 35 (Whole Chapter)
  9. Exodus 35:15
    and the altar of incense and its poles, and the anointing oil and the fragrant incense, and the screen for the doorway at the entrance of the tabernacle;
    Exodus 35:14-16 (in Context) Exodus 35 (Whole Chapter)
  10. Exodus 35:28
    and the spice and the oil for the light and for the anointing oil and for the fragrant incense.
    Exodus 35:27-29 (in Context) Exodus 35 (Whole Chapter)
  11. Exodus 37:29
    And he made the holy anointing oil and the pure, fragrant incense of spices, the work of a perfumer.
    Exodus 37:28-29 (in Context) Exodus 37 (Whole Chapter)
  12. Exodus 39:38
    and the gold altar, and the anointing oil and the fragrant incense, and the veil for the doorway of the tent;
    Exodus 39:37-39 (in Context) Exodus 39 (Whole Chapter)
  13. Exodus 40:9
    "Then you shall take the anointing oil and anoint the tabernacle and all that is in it, and shall consecrate it and all its furnishings; and it shall be holy.
    Exodus 40:8-10 (in Context) Exodus 40 (Whole Chapter)
  14. Leviticus 8:2
    " Take Aaron and his sons with him, and the garments and the anointing oil and the bull of the sin offering, and the two rams and the basket of unleavened bread,
    Leviticus 8:1-3 (in Context) Leviticus 8 (Whole Chapter)
  15. Leviticus 8:10
    Moses then took the anointing oil and anointed the tabernacle and all that was in it, and consecrated them.
    Leviticus 8:9-11 (in Context) Leviticus 8 (Whole Chapter)
  16. Leviticus 8:12
    Then he poured some of the anointing oil on Aaron's head and anointed him, to consecrate him.
    Leviticus 8:11-13 (in Context) Leviticus 8 (Whole Chapter)
  17. Leviticus 8:30
    So Moses took some of the anointing oil and some of the blood which was on the altar and sprinkled it on Aaron, on his garments, on his sons, and on the garments of his sons with him; and he consecrated Aaron, his garments, and his sons, and the garments of his sons with him.
    Leviticus 8:29-31 (in Context) Leviticus 8 (Whole Chapter)
  18. Leviticus 10:7
    "You shall not even go out from the doorway of the tent of meeting, or you will die; for the LORD'S anointing oil is upon you." So they did according to the word of Moses.
    Leviticus 10:6-8 (in Context) Leviticus 10 (Whole Chapter)
  19. Leviticus 21:10
    'The priest who is the highest among his brothers, on whose head the anointing oil has been poured and who has been consecrated to wear the garments, shall not uncover his head nor tear his clothes;
    Leviticus 21:9-11 (in Context) Leviticus 21 (Whole Chapter)
  20. Leviticus 21:12
    nor shall he go out of the sanctuary nor profane the sanctuary of his God, for the consecration of the anointing oil of his God is on him; I am the LORD.
    Leviticus 21:11-13 (in Context) Leviticus 21 (Whole Chapter)
  21. Numbers 4:16
    "The responsibility of Eleazar the son of Aaron the priest is the oil for the light and the fragrant incense and the continual grain offering and the anointing oil--the responsibility of all the tabernacle and of all that is in it, with the sanctuary and its furnishings."
    Numbers 4:15-17 (in Context) Numbers 4 (Whole Chapter)
  22. Ezra 6:9
    "Whatever is needed, both young bulls, rams, and lambs for a burnt offering to the God of heaven, and wheat, salt, wine and anointing oil, as the priests in Jerusalem request, it is to be given to them daily without fail,
    Ezra 6:8-10 (in Context) Ezra 6 (Whole Chapter)
This next part kinda turned my world upside down a bit, I seen the tree used for different things like the Tabernacle created to please God, the Ark of the Covenant in the Tabernacle which was drenched in Anointing Oil, The Burning Bush that Moses spoke and the Noah's Ark. All of these things were made from the Shittah-tree, except possibly Noah's Ark it is only speculated because they still are not sure.

Shittah-tree[1] is Hebrew for acacia. Acacia albida, Acacia tortilis and Acacia iraqensis can be found growing wild in the Sinai desert and the Jordan valley.
Shittah wood was employed in making the various parts of the Tabernacle and of the Ark of the covenant in the wilderness. It was the acacia or mimosa (Acacia nilotica and A. seyal).
"The wild acacia (Mimosa nilotica), under the name of sunt, everywhere represents the seneh, or senna, of the burning bush. A slightly different form of the tree, equally common under the name of seyal, is the ancient shittah, or, as more usually expressed in the plural form, the shittim, of which the Tabernacle was made."

These are all Ethnogens...

Acacia albida, Acacia tortilis, Acacia nilotica and A. seyal

Maybe we do divine God through Ethnogens.

Faidherbia albida (syn. Acacia albida Delile) is a species of Faidherbia native to Africa and the Middle East, formerly widely included in the genus Acacia.
It contains the psychoactive chemical compound dimethyltryptamine in its leaves.[6]

Umbrella Thorn Acacia (Acacia tortilis) also known as an Israeli Babool, as well as the "Burning Bush" of the Israelites and Egyptians, is a medium to large canoped tree native primarily to the savannahs of Africa (especially Sudan), but also occurring in the Middle East.
DMT, NMT, and other tryptamines.

Acacia nilotica (Thorn mimosa) is a species of Acacia (wattle) native to Africa and the Indian subcontinent; Scented Thorn Acacia is native from Egypt south to Mozambique and Natal through to Pakistan, India and Burma
DMT, in the leaf.

Red acacia (Acacia seyal; also known as Shittim wood or Shittim tree) is a thorny, 6-10 m (20-30 ft) high tree with a greenish or reddish bark.
It is distributed from Egypt to Kenya and west Senegal. In the Sahara, it often grows in damp valleys.
DMT, in the leaf.18 Ether extracts about 1-7% of the dried leaf mass.

So here we are with this new knowledge that might change minds I hope it doesn't turn you away from God.

One more thing the information I looked up within a couple days changed and some hidden a little. Is their another power at work?
The Acacia Seyal was removed from a list Wikipedia uses which was there 2 days ago. I still found the exact list with the pictures that Wikipedia was using but for some reason Wikipedia took it out of their used list. When you look up the trees in wikipedia only one directly states it has DMT the Acacia albida, all the others the info is not listed about it's effects. I wonder if the big R.C.C. is at work hidding info.

I haven't found this info on their sites to double check but this is the new possible truth on Frankincense, also used in the rituals everywhere.
Wikipedia
As of May 2008 FASBE Journal announced that Johns Hopkins University and the Hebrew University of Jerusalem have determined that frankincense smoke is a psychoactive drug that relieves depression and anxiety in mice.[3] The researchers found that the chemical compound incensole acetate is responsible for the effects.

Well thats a lot of psychoactive drugs in the bible and I'm only in the Old Testament...
I don't think God minds at all, if anything it may be the true way to divine the almighty's presence.

Please check again and correct me, I don't mind accurate info at all..

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Old 08-28-2008, 09:05 AM
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Default A lot of cut and pasting..
Yeah, I just started reading the bible examining different plant species listed and expanding the searches. I just found out though that their are people who are already aware of it. Etymologists and people from Israel were already aware of it and apparently their are a lot more Psychotropic plants. I was nice to have experts confirm something that I wasn't sure of.

Free will, does that mean being Rule #1 that The Almighty cannot effect us on a physical level?

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Not directly, but through other influences such as the angels and demons present in your live.
The only questionable influence on our free will would be divine intervention, no?
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this is really interesting, i did a bit of research myself on the matter, i first became interested after seeing the "temple420" movie on youtube, the fact that legitimate etymologists are confirming these findings is really awesome
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Yes but the miracles you refer to might be true knowledge divined to us. Knowledge; maybe Jesus healed the sick with true knowledge given to him by God. Maybe he healed the sick with plants made aware and how to use. If God cannot effect us on a physical level then perhaps when he was baptized with the Holy Anointing Oil he was made aware. One with the Cosmos, that kind of thing.. Imagine Jesus was a simple and Good Man who new he was chosen but nothing more until the time came and Jesus was lifted in TRUE KNOWLEDGE. At that time he new his destiny that knowledge was given him as well as knowing his death. In his eyes there was no choice but he still loved life as much as we do, It is a Gift!

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I'm going to check it out. thanks man. Its weird but a few years ago it's like a switch was turned on and I can't stop learning...

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