Kali Mist - Serious Seeds

A couple questions for you Hobbes (if you don't mind).

1) You said above that you transplant from a 6" container to a five gallon bucket, and do so "at an angle". What exactly do you mean?

2) You are tying down the stem with trash bag twist ties, but what are you securing them to? Do you drill holes in the side of the bucket to loop the twist ties through?

3) You mentioned you are from Canada ......... what part? I'm a Canadian "transplant" living down in the States now, and was just curious (I understand if you don't want to answer this one)!!

Originally Posted by Blue Bunny

I have Seen The so-called Crop Circle of Bud grows that have been documented here And boy am I impressed!!

But I do have a few questions before I can really get down to business:

What is Meant by "fan them out like a deck of cards". I am having a hard time visualizing the training methods used once the plant is already horizontal.

"I start at the base of each stem and match branches from each node, connecting them in the middle by a short piece of twist tie. The idea now is to bring eveything towards the middle and to get the branches in order. After the branches of each node are connected with twist ties start from the bottom of the stems and line up each set of branches like a deck of cards that are fanned out - the branches will pull up towards the light"

I also find this confusing.

Hobbes please set me straight.

CCOB seems like just the thing i need to get my Veg and Flower rooms behind one door.

Oh, and by the way, The Air floor is a godsend for spidermites Keep up the good work!

Blue Bunny

Blue Bunny. What is an "air floor", and how does it help with spider mites? Any info on how to control those little suckers is much appreciated!!

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"1) You said above that you transplant from a 6" container to a five gallon bucket, and do so "at an angle". What exactly do you mean?"

Instead of the stem growing straight up at a 90 degree angle to the floor I plant the root ball from the 6" pot on a 45 degree angle in the 5 gallon bucket, then pack Pro Mix underneath to support the root ball. The stems are easier to train because they don't have to be bent down as far.



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"2) You are tying down the stem with trash bag twist ties, but what are you securing them to? Do you drill holes in the side of the bucket to loop the twist ties through?"

Yes, I drill 1/2" holes every inch or so just below the rim, more than I need but it's important to have a tie down where you need it when you need it so I drill holes all around in advance. In this picture you can see the two green twist ties securing each stem to the bucket rim, a small green twist tie holding the base of the stems to the back of the bucket.



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"What is an "air floor""

A raised floor that your buckets sit on, holes are drilled in the floor for air flow. Using a fan to draw air out of the ceiling (or high on a wall) takes out the hot air and new cooler air comes in through the air floor. I also pump CO2 richer air from my living area into my grow area, the hot oxygenated carbon filtered air into my house's air duct system in the winter and out a side vent in the summer. The air drawing up through the leaves helps prevent mold, perhaps the dryness helps with Spider Mites.














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Some benefits of drawing air from under the plant:

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"isnt the stomata under the leaves?"

"A leaf is usually a thin, flexible "sandwich" of plant cells. The outside, the "bread", has waxy cells, to help keep moisture inside the leaf. But it also has holes, called stomata, that allow for the exchange of gases for respiration. Plants "breath in" carbon dioxide (CO2) and "exhale" surplus oxygen (O2), through the stomata, which are mainly on the underside of the leaf."



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Leaf pores, called stomata, are microscopic structures that control the exchange of water and carbon dioxide between the plant and the atmosphere. Stomata evolved when plants colonised land about 400 million years ago and have kept the same general shape ever since. But their size and number has changed quite considerably throughout their history.

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Stomata in green





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Thank you!

Please Show us Pics of your NEW training method.

I too use tomato cages but it involves more "girdling" if that makes sense.

I would like to see when it is that you untrain the stem and the retrain it against the cage if possible.

Thank you so much! You are the reason I STILL haven't "upgraded" to a 1K!

BB

Those diagrams look like vaginas. gotta love the sexuality of marijuana. Oh so sensual.

Originally Posted by Hobbes

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Yes I still train circular, tying the stem down to the bucket rim until the branches and stem stretch is done - when the flowers at the top of the branches/colas start. I don't put the tomato cage in until flowering starts, not while training the stem in a circle. Then I untie the stem from the bucket rim and curve it up the tomato cage at an angle so most of the colas are level. The colas at the base of the plant grow longest and towards the tip of the stem the shortest. An angle on the stem gives move even light to all of the colas. Makes a nice spiral up the cage. I'll take some pics later tonight.

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Please Do Show us. I Just love this shit...

BB

Sorry to be pushy...

But I hope you haven't forgotten about us.

Any further elucidation would just be capital...

Thanks in advance

Blue B