hey was gunna grow some autoflowerers and was doing some research has anyone heard of Kannabia seeds Gnomo Automatic or even better grown some i would like to know how well they do. does anyone have any other recomendations/ ones to stay away from ?? its my understading that a lot of so called autoflowering seeds dont actualy autoflower and tend to be realy week. any advise will be much apreaciated.
since you asked this, and I see some other more experienced growers are logging their grows on Gnomo here, but I thought I'd reply.
I'm in week 8 going on 9 of a gnomo grow. Guess I'd say I'm intermediate so far as experience goes. This is the first time I've used non-bagseed. I have had a couple of grows produce some reasonable quantity but they hermed out on me. Still got a bit of halfway decent smoke and cannabutter out of it but didn't seem worth the effort and worry.
I got 5 fem'd seeds of the gnomo and every one popped in 24hrs and turned out female, more than I was expecting so I've got my hands full now
The genetics don't seem to be quite consistent but I can't complain. Three came out as very vertical with strong central stems. One started out with a nice little pyramidial habit and we thought she would be the superstar. The fifth, or "runt", looked like an aberration; seemingly weeks behind the others in growth, although looking at it under high magnif. it was growing ok and even showed tiny female hairs not long behind the others. These girlies showed sex in like 2 weeks from seed I think. (haven't been logging it real close)
I didn't bother with trying to train these. They have stayed very short and I don't think I'll be forced to mvoe them to a bigger cabinet before they're done.
Got weird about week 6. Started seeing problems at leaf tips and brown blotches on the leaves, on the 3 vertical ones and then a different looking leaf issue on the pyramid type. Adjusted the nutes according to the soil tests and the 3 verticals have improved but still don't look super-healthy, while the pyramid looks pretty tragic but keeps developing, if slowly. The verticals don't have many fan leaves at all. The "runt" meanwhile looks awesome (in the 5 and 8-9wk group pics pics she is back row center). I think some types in this gene pool are kinda picky and/or sickly. But most are budding up like crazy.
They've been on 20/4 with a high-output 110w fluoro fixture on veg spectrum plus two LED 14w sidelights this whole time. Going to change the tubes out to the warm spectrum set this evening. I've put it off because the Runt was still a little behind but I really don't think it's strictly necessary to change bulbs or even short the light period for the autos, though I hope the bulb change will help them finish up sooner. The trichs are becoming less clear now, I think. I expect I'll start giving them only water pretty soon.
Growing these in foxfarm ocean soil and feeding with foxfarm grow big, with a little here and there of ff open sesame, ff big bloom, maxicrop seaweed, superthrive, organic humic acid soil tonic, and epsom. started off using distilled water but am now mostly just using 2-stage filtered water in one of those gallon Pur dispensers.
So, you might not have a great experience if you just start one seed, since it's not a super-consistent strain yet, and you might end up with one of the really picky ones. But I've been pretty impressed so far.
I was considering taking a test snip today but instead took the least-budded little sprig from the bottom of Runt and trimmed it off to see if I could re-veg one little clone (yes, I know it's late in the game and maybe autos can't even be re-veged, just thought I'd try one). I trimmed off the tiny budding areas and a leaf or two from the stem before planting and just ate those buts outright rather than waste them. And am now pleasantly buzzed even on a pinch of immature budlets
Got lung problems so I can't smoke much anyway; am glad I'll have some extra to try making glycerine drops, more cannabutter etc. Will save the best stuff for the smoker in the house.
Just in case someone does check this in the future for Gnomo information... some more thoughts.
All 5 seeds seemed to have a thick membrane inside the seed that stuck to the seedling and had to be removed (with tweezers and extreme care of course) from the neck of the seedling to prevent damping off or 'choking'. Not one of them just dissolved off by itself. Just thought it was odd, not sure if that's a characteristic of ruderalis or what, but I had never noticed this before with my typically sativa-dominant bagseed grows.
At nine weeks, the shortest plant is only about 7" tall; the rest range from 10-13+". Expect the "runt" which lagged behind for a while but is now bursting out could get as big as 18".
Also, the odor of this strain is strong imo. Masking it is becoming an issue.
I'm just going to keep posting here, not sure if this should be moved elsewhere as it isn't really a log, just a description of what I'm seeing with the Gnomo.
I did a partial harvest last night; the top half of the tallest and most mature plant, which has some more buds lower down that look like a few more days would benefit them, and the entire shortest plant which seemed to have been the most sickly/wavering. The shorty has such short internodes it was hard to see what was going on in there but I could detect no more white pistils and it looked tired so I cut it. Both were very sticky. I have never gotten such serious all-girl buds before but did my best trimming. I left some smaller leaves that stuck out some but were covered with crystals. Drying them on a screen over a photocatalytic light bulb (cfl) for gentle heat and to help keep them "clean" and with a pc fan moving air over them. Seems to be working well. The large bud was 17g after trimming, down to 10g after about 20 hours of dry time.
As mentioned, these are some stinky plants and odor has been out of control over the last few days. Making me very nervous as I live in an Anti-Happiness-Of-All-Kinds state and they won't care that I am not growing to sell and didn't even mean to end up with 5 whole plants (however small). But I expect to be done harvesting by next weekend and all should then be well.
The odor in the air is a really pungent, funky but not unpleasant one, however I could not get the smell off my fingers after trimming and concentrated like that it smells of musky cat pee--and let me tell you, I knows mah musky cat pee. Unfortunately. Starting to think we should adopt a couple of skunks as cover.
First partial harvest got about 18g dry, mostly bud.
Tried one bowl split between two people last night. Burned a long time, good even buzz, moderately long lasting as a smoke, easygoing return to normal without a letdown. Smooth smoke despite a fuel-y kind of smell in the bad. Good pain relieving qualities and relaxing. Not a drop dead stone but haven't really tried for one of those yet. The next cuttings will be riper, more amber trichs, perhaps stronger.
The variety hasn't been uniformly vigorous but most have produced a lot of bud for the total size of the plant, and produced it quickly and without taking up much space at all. Really glad I tried it. Better than anything we've been able to get ahold of in the last two years.
I tried out their Mataro Blue (Free from Attitude) and it is a great strain so far, short and dense and seems to be a very stable strain! I'll re-post when I have them in flower, great so far though
Don't be Ninjaing nobody that don't need be ninjaing ~ Kung Fu Hillbilly!
Looking forward to seeing that, Gnomo has Mataro Blue in its parentage so I'm curious to see which of my little weirdos take most after that type. Are you doing soil or hydro?
kannabia hasn't sent me any bunk seed yet. i too got their mataro blue and am happy so far. im not a big autoflower fan, my experience in that dept is with diesel ryder, lowryder#2 so this was a nice read for me
I would definitely try Kannabia again after these hefty beans. Got mine from Attitude. Was going to try the diesel ryder next round, did they not do too well?
I got the autos out of desperation (compeltely out for ages) and it worked fast for me. I do want to try non-auto strains again when I can build the grow box I've been thinking about. These were able to finish this whole cycle in the box I originally used for vegging, in my only other couple of attempts. Made it a lot easier.
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