Let me start it much love to ALL breeders.

Now, for a question?

What ever happen to proving out strains and stablizing them?

It seems the game is new strains, but most of them seem to be one off wonder grows. If these strains are all good, then shouldn't some time be spent finding the best phenotype and line. As everyone knows if you plant 10 females the odds are some will be better then others. Still the same strain, just a better line.

Imagine if some of these strains were truly fine tuned.

Has this fallen onto the individual growers and not the breeders? I for one would love to feel warm and fuzzy that each seed is the bomb.

You hear alot of "The mother was dank and the father was a stud so these SHOULD be...." Or, "out of the 10 beans you should find one that WILL be the....".

Sometimes I just get the feeling that "pollen chucking" and "breeding" have become one and the same. I would love to see the amount of strains decrease alittle and stability of the strains increase. It used to take years for a great strain to come out, now it seems it takes as long as it takes for the first seeds to dry.

Once again I tip my hat to the real breaders that bring us new strains to play with, just expressing my concerns.

If you want stable strains just pay the few extra $$ and get anything from serious seeds. SS is a breeder that only produces 5 strains and nothing else. All their time is dedicated to just those strains. AK47, White Russian, Bubblegum, Chronic, Kali Mist. Close your eyes and take a pick. You will not be dissappointed AT ALL!

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Kali Mist/Colombian Red Haze journal

Here's my last grow AK47 and PPP in hempy journal

i am with you streetrider

Serious is really no joke all stable strains all fun to smoke all decent yields and all very potent, Indeed boneman close your eyes and take a pick.

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Genesis 1:12: And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

my personal opinion is that new strains sell, the breeders are just providing what the market demands

the oldtime breeders like sam the skunkman,shantbai,dj,simon etc,the guy at serious,they paved the road for the modern pollen chuckers.any one can do what todays"breeders"do.any one can take the so called dank female with the brute male and get a keeper.Your right,they say buy ten you should get a keeper,i think dj still stableizes and works his strains,ive grown white Russian and they looked like clones all top notch weed.but if your dj and shanta(cant spell his name)how do you compete with someone who takes one known strain crosses it with another known strain and gets a $100 for ten seeds,how do you compete,it is going to lead to a bottleneck in genetics,i can see things getting really screwed up in the cannabis world real quick.it needs some breeders to come in and bring some new genes into the equation and work out the fems which is becoming standard in the seed business.And it has to be someone who doesn't love the spotlight or the fame or money,just guys that love keeping things right.But with the money floating around by just taking c99 pollen and putting it on train wreck or og or urkle or white widow,it is hard for the old time breeders to compete.it will take some special dudes to get it all on track when all the inbreeding of the so called super strains is messed up.

+rep Trapper.

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Genesis 1:12: And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

It wont let me add rep but its all good Ill catch you next time for sure.

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Genesis 1:12: And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

And why are their so many fricken hermies,if you seen the grow rooms of the 70,s compared to today you would think it was a hermy waiting to happen back then yet hermies are way more prevalent today then yesteryear,but i could be wrong.

Ya no shit

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Genesis 1:12: And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.