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Old 05-13-2009, 05:13 AM
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Default Help me find a strain to breed.
Hey everyone, hopefully you can help me out. Basically I'm looking for a stud plant so to speak.

I have a cut of OG, I'm pretty sure its the original. The person who I got the Cut from originally got It way back in 1996 or 1997.
I plan on crossing it with whatever males I end up with. Of course I'll be keeping the females as well and may include them in the project at some point.

Heres some main characteristics of my cut:

Its a sativa dominate plant with dark thin leaves. They continue Down into purple stems with relatively short internodes.
The buds are pretty dense and chunky like an indica. They are Covered in orange hairs and usually end up with a bit of purple by harvest even if its been warm.
The smell is a sort of pungent sour with a touch of lemon. It Tastes like a chemically citrus with a touch of spice.

The most important features in the strain I want are:

1. Mostly Indica
My plant is mostly Sativa so in order to maintain vigor I would prefer a mostly Indica plant.

2. High Potency
Above all else, I smoke to get high, period

3. Good Yield
The plant has to be commercially viable but doesn't have to be an INSANE producer.

4. Good Bag Appeal
Its gotta look good, preferably something purple or white.

5. Smell/taste
Maybe something fruity or sweet.

Any Ideas?

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Old 05-13-2009, 07:15 AM
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Northern Lights has done well in some other sativa crosses.

Who know's some off the top of their head, no looking .... crap I should know a couple dozen ... put down 10 off the top of your head and then we'll score the answers:

1. Super Silver Haze
2. Jack Herer
3.

That's all I've got, and I'm not sure about Jack Herer! Who can do better, no looking up anything.

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Code here's a list of crosses to give you some ideas. I've always thought BOG's strains would make good breediing stock, they're potent and mostly fruity.

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Amethyst Bud
= Super skunk x Big Skunk Korean x Jack Herer ???
Amethyst Bud = Lavender x Afghani Hawaiian
Apocalypse = Blue Kiev x Apollo 11
Apollo 11 = C'99 x Genius / [shivaskunk x JH f2] x shivaskunk
Apollo 13 = C'88 x Genius [10% Shiva Skunk]
Avalon = Afghani x Blueberry
B-52 = White Widow x LionHeart
Belladonna = SuperSkunk x ???
Big Bud = Skunk #1 x Afghani
Black Bubble = Black Domina x Bubblegum x ???
Black Domina
Black Goo = Blue Bubble Juice [male] x Black Bubble
Black Mamba = Blue Bubble Juice x Black Domina
Black Russian = Cherry Ak47 x SomAblaze Blackberry
Black Spice = Silver Spice x G13 x Black Widow
Black Widow = Brazilian Sativa x South Indian hybrid
Blockhead = SWT#3 x ???
Blue Bubblejuice = blue rocker x bubble juice
Blue Goo = blue bubble juice x double g(g13hpx gum13)
Blue Haze = Original Homegrown Haze x original BlueBerry
Blue Hen = greenhouse SSH x DP Blueberry
Blue Hun = Blue Hen x BGS Blue Russian
Blue Kiev = AK47 x BGS Blue Russian
Blue Rocket = ???Cherry AK47 x blueberry x Juicy Fruit???
Blue Russian = orignal Blue Hen x Juicy Russian
Blue Satellite = Blueberry Sativa x Swt#2 male
Blue Thunder = Blueberry x Matanuska Tundra
Blue Thunder 13 = Blue Hen {female} x MrNice G13HP {male}
Blue Velvet = Purple Thai[Oaxaca Gold x Chocolate Thai] x Afghani male
Blue Widow = White Widow{male} x Blueberry{female}
Blueberry = Juicy Fruit(highland) Thai x Afghani male
BOG Lifesaver = [Jacks cleaner x DJ Short's Blueberry] x Bogbubble x Bogbubble
BOG BogBubble = WL Bubblegum X WL Bubblegum
BOG L.S.D = [(WL Bubblegum X WL Bubblegum) X Subcools JCB] X NYCD
BOG BoggleGum = [whitelabel BG x BC Seed Co NL#5] x BG x BG x BG
BOG Grape Punch = [(WL Bubblegum X WL Bubblegum) X NL5] X [(WL Bubblegum X WL Bubblegum) X Subcools JCB]
BOG Sour Bubble = [WL Bubblegum X WL Bubblegum] X [WL Bubblegum X WL Bubblegum]
BOG Sweet Cindy99 = SWT#3 X C99 f2
BOG Blue Moon Rocks = (WL Bubblegum X WL Bubblegum) X BlueMoon [not bluemoonshine]
BubbleGum = The lineage is Big Skunk with some NL#5 [source = medicine man/OG]
Bubbleberry = Bubblegum[female] x Blueberry[male]
Bubblefunk = NL#5 x Bubbleberry
Bubblejuice = Juicy fruit x bubblegum
Bubba Kush
Buddha = Northern Lights x Shiva x Skunk
California Orange = Thai x [Afghani x Acapulco Gold]
Chemo
Cherry Melon = Cherry Ak47 x Jack Candy
Chocolate Chunk
Chronic = NL x Afghan x NL / NL x Big Bud x Afghan
Cinderella 99 = ShivaSkunk x [sensi Jack Herer x Jack Herer]
Citrus Skunk = Skunk #1 x California Orange
CondoLeeza =
Cotton Candy = Afghani x Haze
Cotton Candy = Afghani ?? x Blueberry ?? [federation knock-off of SWT#3]
Critical Mass = Afghani x Original Skunk #1
DTC99
Delta 9 = Isis [female] x Flo [male]
DNL = RFK X Hawaiian
Double Bubble = Black Bubble x Double G
Double G = Gum13 x G13HP
DSD =
Early Pearl = Early Girl x Polly {polyanna}
Endless Sky = Iranian Indica x Grenadine
Firecracker = A Willem's Wonder-dominate Willie D male pollinated two Willem's-dom pheno Willie D girls
Five O = NL#5 x Hawaiian Indica
Flo = Purple Thai[Oaxaca Gold x Chocolate Thai] x Afghani male
Four Way = 25% Indica, 25% Ruderalis, 25% Northern Lights and 25% Skunk #1
Fuma con Diablo[dios] = Skunk #1 [mother] x Pure Original Haze [father]
Gainesville Green [Micanopy Moonbeam]
Ghaze = G13 clone X Uber Candy Haze
Glass Slipper = C99 x ???
Grapefruit = This is a 75% C’99 x 25% strong fruity sativa??? /steve says it was a clone only...
Great White Shark = White Widow x Super Skunk
Green Giant = BigBud [female] x Shiva Skunk [male]
Green Spirit = DP Big Bud x DP Skunk #1
Haze = Thai x Columbian x mexican x vietnamese?
Heavy Duty Fruity = Killin Garberville {male} x [Mendocino Hash Plant x Seattle Big Bud] {female}
Hollands Hope = Afghani x Skunk
HOG = Kush x Afghani
Ice Princess = Cindy '99 {female} x GreenHouse White Widow {male}
Jacks Cleaner = Jack Herer x Lemon Thai
Jack Flash
Jack Herer = Skunk #1 x Northern Lights #5 x Haze
Jackie O = Jack Candy (@ 87.5% line-bred) x Cali-Orange (also @ 87.5% line-bred)
Juicy Fruit = Golden Triangle Thai x Afghani [or] Kush
Juicy Russian = Juicy Fruit X AK47
Kali Mist = Haze x Skunk hybrid / cambodian sativa x silver haze
Klitschkov = Blue Kiev x Sudden Impact
Killer Queen = Airborne G13 x C99
Killin' Garberville = Hawaiian Sativa x Afghani
L.A. Confidential = OG Kush x Afghani
Lavender = Super Skunk x Big Skunk Korean x Afghani-Hawaiian
Leda Uno = [K.C.33 x Brazillian sat.] x [K.C.606 x LEDA] male
Legends Ultimate Indica = Ortega x Sweet Tooth #2
Lemon Kush = Master Kush x Lemon Joy
Lemon Skunk = Citrus Skunk x Skunk #1
Love Potion #1 = colombian gold x G-13 sativa pheno
Mango = [KC special select x KC33] x Afghani
Maple Leaf Indica = Female Ortega15 x Sam afghan skunk X male Skunk 18.5
Mazar = {afghani skunk} Afghani x Skunk #1
Mendocino Madness
Mighty Haze Candy = NCGA Mighty Chemo Widow x Über Candy Haze female
Mr Nice = G-13 x Hash Plant
Mullimbimby Madness
Neville's Haze = Thai x Colombian with a 1/4 NL#5
New York City Diesel = Diesel Bagseed (probably orig, not sour) X (Afghani X Hawaiian)
Northern Berry = NL5 x Blueberry
Northern Lights = Thai x Afghani
Northern Lights #2 = hindu kush x thai
Northern Lights #5
Northern Lights #9
Orangina = blue bubble juice x DP Cali-O [female]
Orange Crush = AE77 CaliO X DJ Shorts Blueberry
Orange Spice = Double G x DP WW male
Original Diesel = (SensiNL X MassSuperSkunk) X Dawg/Chem
Original Gangsta Kush = White Lable Bubble Gum X Sensi Seed Hindu Kush
Ortega Indica #1 = Ortega Indica x Kush Hybrid 1.2
Peak 19 = Matanuska Tundra x Stonehedge
Princess = [NL x Haze] x Skunk Female x ??? male
RFK = NL X Shiva
Romulan = (Federation) California X [White Whino X White Rhino]
Rosebud
Rosetta Stone
S.A.G.E = [sativa???] x Haze x Afghani
Shiskeberry = [Red & Yellow Afghani's] x Dj Short Blueberry [male]
**** = 3/4 skunk 1/4 Afghani [same as super skunk???]
Shiva Shanti 2 = Garlic Bud x Afghani x Skunk x ???
Shiva Skunk = Nevils NL #5{basic 5} x Skunk #1 [male]
Silver Haze{sensi} = Silver Pearl x Haze
Silver Pearl = Early Pearl x Skunk #1 x Northern Lights
Silver Spice = Endless Sky x Orange Spice
Skunk = Columbian Gold x [Afghani x Acapulco Gold]
Skunk{sacred seeds co.} = afghani x columbian x thai
Sour Diesal = Mass.Super Skunk x Chem {dawg}
Sour Diesel = [(SensiNL X MassSuperSkunk) X Dawg/Chem] X DNL
Sour Saver = [Sour Diesel 1.5 x Lifesaver] x [Sour Saver v1 x Lifesaver] x Sour Saver v1 x Sour Saver v1
SSSC M39 = [Basic #5] northern light #5 X skunk #1
Strawberry Cough = Strawberry Fields x Haze
Strawberry Spice = Strawberry Cough x Jabberwocky
StoneHedge = Cambodian x Western Winds
Sudden Impact = mr nice g-13 hp(male)sensi '99 x ak47(cherry pheno) serious seeds '97
Sugar Blossoms = white widow [lemon pheno] x ???
Sugar Blossoms = Genius female[ JH x unknown sisters] [genius, princess, and cafe girl] X shanti's white widow male
Sugar Klingon = [Bubblegum x O.Sag Blueberry x Aloha 98 widow]klingonberry x Fig Widow Queen[Fig Skunk x Aloha 98 Widow x C99]
Super Haze = Super Skunk{female} x [nl#5 x haze female]
Super Silver Haze = [NL x Nevilles Haze] x [Skunk x Nevilles Haze]
Super Silver Haze{greenhouse} = Super Skunk x Silver Pearl x Haze
Super Skunk = Afghani x Skunk #1
Star Gazer = endless sky x bubbleberry male
Sweet Tooth = Sweetpink Grapefruit x Blueberry {male} x Grapefruit f1 {backcrossed to mother}
T.N.T = [Northern Lights x Skunk] x [Afghani #1] x [Afghani x Skunk]
TRC Devestator = Garlic Bud x Skunk
TRC Devestation = [Shiva {garlic bud} x Afghani] x Skunk
TRC Tarantula = ???
TRC Texas Mystic = Alaskan Trainwreck x Sweet Tooth #4
The Pure = This is the original Skunk#1
The Real McCoy = Haze x Skunk [60/40]
Trainwreck = Afghani x [Lowland Thai x Mexican/columbian]
Tropicana#1 = Tropical Treat mother (mostly Colombian) X Sweet Tooth BX2 P1
Uber Candy Haze = Vietnamese Black x White Widow Thai and the Hawaiian x Neville's Haze
Ultimate Moonshine = LUI x Blue Moonshine
White Haze = ??Juicy Widow x Blue Hen??
White Rhino = White widow x Afghani
White Russian = Ak47 x White Widow
White Widow = Brazilian x Indian
White Widow = First Lady{mullimbimby madness} x Shiva Skunk
Willie D = William's Wonder X NYC Diesel f1
Wonderberry = Bubbleberry x Williams Wonder

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I can, sigh... OK what your #1 priority for a breeder is STABILITY. I'd go with BCSC Northern Lights #5 this is a F5 IBL. http://www.greenlifeseeds.com/GreenL...rn_Lights.html
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"I can, sigh"

I got 2 and guessed on the second, you could do better making up 10 random names.



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yeah right Hobbes, here's another one to consider http://www.hempdepot.ca/seeds/reefer...0Headstash.htm
and maybe : http://www.hempdepot.ca/seeds/reefer...arIShariff.htm
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Thinking about stability suggest a top bred seed company like serious seeds. ak 47, kali mist or white russian should all do well. wonder is you toke another og seed if the traits would stabilize like the new seeds available now?
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I can, sigh... OK what your #1 priority for a breeder is STABILITY. I'd go with BCSC Northern Lights #5 this is a F5 IBL. http://www.greenlifeseeds.com/GreenL...rn_Lights.html
Thats very true, you don't want to get a bunch of recessive traits that you have to work out. My first question is this... Most of the Northern Lights I've smoked is really low odor. I want a powerful smelling plant, is NL#5 better? And also is it still vigorous? I know you can only back cross and inbreed so much before you start getting mutations stacked that destroy vigor and make the plants much weaker.
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I want a powerful smelling plant, is NL#5 better? And also is it still vigorous?
no, it's the least odoriferous of the NL lines. As for vigor I don't know. It's been in the top 5 best seller list at the VSB for years now so it can't be bad or people would of stopped buying it.
Me I like low odor and short.
 

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