Just wondering if anyone has seen these original strains available anywhere.

nah sorry but theres these

Colombian Rojo Haze is an excellent sativa hybrid cross between a Neville’s Haze mother and a Colombian Red father.Neville’s Haze (the mother) is a stong pine flavoured long leafed 75% sativa strain – a hybrid cross of Original Haze with...

Pamir Gold


Pamir Gold originated in the western Himalayas of Tadzjikistan. The plant was adapted to the high altitudes of the Swiss Alpes during several years of selective breeding. Once selected seeds were reproduced in the Netherlands. Pamir Gold is a mostly...

Himalaya Gold


Himalaya Gold has won many harvest festivals and private awards, proving its popular and high quality reputation. It’s a strong and diverse plant, with a high that encourages creativity and effects that can be medicinal and pleasant. Awards: Not yet...

these are the closest i could find..

i only trust one seedbank anymore sorry. but at least i tried.

collumbian gold is a bit over rated tho... still pretty dam good tho

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I thought the gold was pretty good but the red bud was awsome. thanks for the reply did you find them at the attitude? I think I have run acrossed them on their. well the rojo haze anyway.

I have never found the real true honest to goodness landrace Colombian Gold like I enjoyed so much in the late 60’s and 70’s from any seedbank. I have found strains that were claimed to be the Real McCoy but turned out to be nothing at all like the landrace Colombian Gold was.

The same can be said about a number of other famous landrace sativas from the past. You just cannot find them in their pure original genetics.

You also asked about Red Bud. Was that the Red Bud that has been floating around for a handful of years or so or did you mean the old true landrace Panama Red?

If you meant Panama Red do not hold your breath while looking for it or else you will have to change your username to Mr. Blue. It is another of the great blasts from the past that can no longer be found.

I noticed one message that said that Colombian Gold is/was overrated. Well if that person formed their opinion based on genetics that have been sold in the last two decades, or roughly so, I would totally agree with them but if they were referring to the original true Colombian Gold I would have to disagree.

I started getting high in the late 60’s and first began to grow my own in either 1972 or 1973 and I can tell you from personal experience that the old true pure landrace sativas of the era would absolutely stun most smokers of today. There is some odd misperception that pot of that era was not close to being what pot is today and that, like was said, it is/was overrated. That is just not the case.

Most, or at least many, smokers today have never experienced a true landrace sativa and what they know to be pot and what they consider to be good and what they call potent would not have been a big seller in the 60’s and the 70’s.

Back then it was called getting high because you got high. Later it became getting stoned because you got stoned. The change came when different indicas and indica/sativa crosses flooded the market. They were not created or grown or sold because they were better but because they matured faster and had a higher yield and both of those things factor in heavily when it comes to commercial growing.

Some landrace sativas could take up to 20 weeks of flowering to mature and that is 2.5 times the average length of time for an indica to flower/mature. That cuts down on the number of crops someone can grow in a year. Also because of the lower yield growing a pure sativa further cut down on yearly profits.

People really badmouth Mexican pot but there was a time when most of it was damn good. It wasn’t until ignorant people crossed the pure landrace Mexican sativas with indicas in an attempt to shorten flowering/maturing time and to increase yields that it became the lower grade pot that most people today know it to be.

A lid of Oaxaca Gold, and back then a lid was not a measured ounce as things later became and it was common to buy a lid where the baggie was so full that you could hardly fold the flap over to close the baggie, would cost around $15.00 to $20.00 in most cases.

It would knock your socks off and it weighed way over an ounce so a lid would last a good while.

It was easily the equal of a number of modern day strains that I have grown or smoked. Most people today refuse to accept that because it was Mexican and they just know that Mexican is low grade weed but it is exactly how it was. It was killer and it was cheap.

The reason I asked about what you meant by Red Bud is because if it was not Panama Red and instead the cross of today you were asking about two very different strains.

Again one gets you high and the other gets you stoned and to someone from the past like myself there is a vast ocean of difference and I have remained old school all these years and still much more love a sativa over an indica.

The clear soaring motivational cerebral head high of a pure sativa just cannot be compared to the mind numbing body gelling couch-lock stone of an indica or a cross that gives you the munchies so bad that you eat an entire cow and then follow that up with a half dozen burrito supremes and wash it all down with four Big Gulps.

It is comparing a Bugatti Veyron-like high to a Yugo-like stone. (for those that are unaware the Bugatti Veyron is the fastest production car in the world. It has 1001 horsepower and will go from 0 to 100 km/hr in 3.8 seconds and from 100km/hr to 0 in 3.2 seconds and the Yugo didn’t have enough power to get out of its own way or to pull a marble out of a mud hole so you didn’t need brakes, you could just stick your feet through the hole that rotted through the floor practically overnight after purchasing one and put your feet on the ground and stop it while under full power.)

So if you were comparing those two strains in any way or believe them to be similar they are in fact an apples to zebras comparison.

God how I miss those old pure sativas of the past. My brother in law brought home a rather large amount of a pure landrace sativa when he returned from Vietnam. I believe it was Dalat but it has been to many years to remember clearly but it was what I describe as being dangerous.

Real hardcore tokers would do like two hits and the next time the pipe or joint came around they would pass and some would later say they were to high. Only true party commandos smoked more of it, one of which I am proud to say I was.

But it would virtually scare people and it would scare a number of today’s smokers too if they were able to lay their hands on some and they would then throw rocks at and ridicule and scorn the very same stains that up until then they called potent and high quality.

I honestly feel sorry for people today who believe they are smoking the very best pot that has ever existed but never had the opportunity in life to smoke real true pure landrace sativa strains like Dalat and Colombian Gold and Panama Red and Acapulco Gold and several of the pure old Mexican landrace sativa strains.

You guys just have no idea of what you missed.

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dont really care i got to try thai buddha and purple haze too so im fine there.

so yeah i have tried it and the genetics are still strong and around in some of the right places tho i cant get it any more.. which saddens me it was good but id still say over rated

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also i do get to smoke true landrace strains (and aussie landrace strains)

i see your point tho..

but theres people who smoke/smoked em without even knowing. i was just trying to say there definately still out there and still strong.

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If they are still out there PLEASE tell me where I can purchase the original true landrace Dalat and Colombian Gold and Acapulco Gold and Panama Red seeds from.

I have searched for them for years and everything I have tried that was claimed to be the original was at very best a mere shadow of what I used to smoke.

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yeah i know the only real way to get them is through clones or ppl that ya know that own the strains and had em for years (basically stabilized and inbred really) but yeah its there...

but the person i know that had it moved and then moed again lost track of em sadly but the others qare still around but hard to get... purple haze i know of seeds only (this i can get) lost track of the true thai buddha too but i know they keep them alive and potent

sorry i cant be more help

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you and my dad must be a similar age. he said the stuff i grow is the same if not better then the old days.

also cannaboid receptors are know to deminish in the limbic system after the age of 20. thus it gets harder and harder with age to get high. its not supernatural just ur older and had more fun with you were younger and high

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well thanks for the responses. it sucks that the strains seem to have disappeared. I actually have a jiffy peanutbutter jar full of the red bud seeds, but unfortunately I havent been able to get any of them to germ. they are extremely old and I beleive that they are no longer viable. if anyone seems to come across them keep me posted. thanks.