If the Pakistan Valley is anything like the Mazar or Afghan Kush you are gonna have to veg for 2 months to get a decent yield indoors.

Thank you Bubba Kushman for the info. I use a 2 month veg. all the time when I start with seeds.
The Afghani and Pakistani seedlings are definitely 100% indica by the very fat leaves growing.
The 2 strains have a few little differences visible at this early stage of growth. Interesting???

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like your choices .....any pics good luck

I'll post one or two soon. Not much to look at, only 2 or 3 inches now...

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Here you go... 6 Pakistan Valley, 5 Afghani and that's St. John's Wort on the right.

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Here is a couple of clear close up pics of my babies... 1st one is Pakistan Valley and the 2nd is Afghani.





Short FAT Leaves... true indica

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Nice. Im also looking for a true afghanica to grow. A few Im looking at are afghani #1, first lady, maple leaf indica, sensi hash plant. First lady looks pretty nice and the afghani #1 but Im looking for a hash plant afghanica thats going to give me a large yield.
And the shorter flowering time means more harvests per year.

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What soil are your seedlings in? I put my seedlings in light warrior in a paper cup and the last time 6 seedlings never grew. They only got 3 sets of tiny leaves then stretched then died after 3 monhs in veg. I've never really grown a vigourous seedling before that grows huge fat leaves in a few days. Mine always grow wimpy and take a long time before they finally do thier thing. What kind of containers are you using?

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Hi my northern neighbor anhedonia

I start my seeds in Jump Start 12 pellet Greenhouses and Lowe's sells one called Quick n' Easy. I use to buy soils from Lowe's, Home Depot and the like. I quit doing that after all the problems with PH and BUGS!!! I now transplant the pellets into Happy Frog Potting Soil. And when I'm ready to transplant them into larger pot sizes, I'll use FoxFarm Ocean Forest Soil for the rest of the grow.
I'm using plastic colored red cups for this grow and CFL's for seedings only.
I cut four holes on the side at the bottom in each cup so I would have good drainage.
Your seeds and seedlings might have died do to Damping Off


"I put my seedlings in light warrior in a paper cup and the last time 6 seedlings never grew. They only got 3 sets of tiny leaves then stretched then died after 3 months in veg."

Did you put all six in one cup?
Also paper cups can let light get to the roots, then algae grows on the roots, thats bad.
In 3 months of veg. with good lighting, soil and fresh air, your babies should be huge, 2 or 3 feet... I have 4, 23 watt Daylight CFL's in a 2 square foot area giving me a total of 6,400 lumens.
For my babies, this seems to work good, maybe even great... but I don't plan on leaving them there for long. When it's time to transplant babies into 1 gal. pots, I'll put them in a 6' X 3' grow area under a 400 watt MH (30,000 lumens or more) on a light mover.
Then about 2 or 3 weeks before 12/12, I'll transplant again into 3 gal. pots.
When it is time for 12/12 I will switch out the MH for a 430 watt HPS (58,000 + lumens) for 8 or 9 weeks.
Should be about 4 months total, from seed to

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Oh great!!! I spend a half hour writing up info for a guy I thought new NOTHING about growing...

Then I clicked on his ... organic White Berry SOG med grow.

I guess the joke is resting squarely on my shoulders... I feel like a...

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