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no, im saying the initial lumen output of a cfl reduces more drasticlly over time. cfls u have to keep 1-2" from the plants so u have to move the everyday. and with the amount of cfls it takes to get the job done u end up using the same amount of watts as a hid system. plus ur gonna need to...

cfls do not last that long and lose lots of light intensity with age, in the long run they are more expensive then a hid unit and more hassle. but u can grow with them and grow well.

lol its not hard to identify someone with pics so y risk it? a pic is unbeatable proof of what u do.

a 400w is enough

always cheaper online

of course if u have the money for the light and dont mind the electric bill then y not get a bigger light.

" Need at least 400 watt. 3 gallon pots." need at least a 400w? that is crazy talk

lol u dont need a 400, u could keep what u have and it would be straight, if u want more light throw another 70 in there. get a 12" pot, sounds good bro, gl.

i think a 150 would suit u well, very economical and gets the job done, easy to find as well.

ive seen 4 plants all grown under a 250 with acceptable results, if u want to be economical and are only growing for personal use u really dont 400-1000w in my opinion.

the question is so vague it has to many answers, more info on ur setup could help us figure out what u need.

well how many plants do u have?

i dont like posting my own pics ima sketchball but heres a group of people dedicated to the 150. International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - 150w HPS Club and Resource Guide......

a 150w can grow 2-3 plants and can keep even the biggest smoker sufficiently stoned until his next crop comes around. i used to use a 400 till i was smart enough to realize a 150 was all i needed.

70w hps to 1000w hps the quality can be the same.

first of all how many plants are u growing? the 400 may be all u need

i think for the grower growing for personal use only a 150w hid is perfect.

yes if only floros lasted longer and didnt lose so much light intensity with age.

u can pull a good grow with cfls with enough light

a freind of mine grows this strain and it really does put u on ur ass and then some.