Im going to post agian w/ pics tom... hopefully more feedback than last time.... ne way I have finished in stalln all my lights( 1 110 tru watt ballist= 10,000 lumens, 4 tru 54w 4ft strip lights 5,000 lumens each) all 6400k for veg. i have 3 plants right now about 3 in tall and only 6 days...