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  1. M

    hi everybody! lets have a thought out discussion! no name calling or finger-pointing please

    hi everybody! lets have a thought out discussion! no name calling or finger-pointing please
  2. M

    NO! On Prop 19

    cigarettes are taxed up the ass too but theyre cheap. point is? if supply outweighs demand in a real market with competition. prices will drop with or without a tax
  3. M

    Prop 19 Explained: Common Questions and Misperceptions

    and the terrible maybes just dont seem likely due to the thing called media, it would be all over the news like prop 8 was. people would not be happy with persecution of cancer and aids sufferers, maybe not the most significant demographic, but still effected by supposed limitations and doesnt...
  4. M

    Prop 19 Explained: Common Questions and Misperceptions

    the context of which they are used was exactly my point, regular people dont know the difference
  5. M

    Prop 19 Explained: Common Questions and Misperceptions

    yes obviously words mean different things when used in legal. thats why theres legal dictionaries. phrases are very specific and you know that
  6. M

    Prop 19 Explained: Common Questions and Misperceptions

    weather you think its relevant doesnt mean shit to me. i do. so give me a fucking answer. if im wrong about something then dont adress it. you seem to be glossing over the fact that he suffers from something you dont. yes reading things multitudes and understanding the actual legal...
  7. M

    Prop 19 Explained: Common Questions and Misperceptions

    sure. gloss over my points entirely. thats productive. ive read 19, 215, and sb 420 many times. and it is not simple to interpret. i had to compare every phrase to legal dictionaries just to complete make sense of everything. the only one thats straight forward is 215 but which only allowed for...
  8. M

    Prop 19 Explained: Common Questions and Misperceptions

    how can the mcdonalds of pot be bad? low quality but dirt cheap. ofcourse you can just go to a diner and get a real burger if you want but you will pay more.thats the fucking metaphor. you people who bag on richard lee dont seem to realize his spine is broken... the man cant walk and suffers...
  9. M

    NO! On Prop 19

    hmmm fair enough than. yeah, i am aware of what can happen. but as it stands it does not. its a shame people are being deceived. its kinda off topic but the lies the dispensaries are spreading is kinda awful. one person i talked to was telling people that it forcibly restricts personal mmj...
  10. M

    NO! On Prop 19

    actually the fact that our state supreme court deemed setting limits on medical patients unconstitutional gives even more support to that 215 is exempt from 19
  11. M

    Prop 19 Explained: Common Questions and Misperceptions

    ive posted this many times, but here we go again. section 2b blah blah blah 1. 2. 3. etc.... "8. Ensure that if a city decides it does want to tax and regulate the buying and selling of cannabis (to and from adults only), that a strictly controlled legal system is implemented to oversee and...
  12. M

    Prop 19 Explained: Common Questions and Misperceptions

    its not an opinion, its specifically listed under the section intent. something the laws will have to follow
  13. M

    NO! On Prop 19

    apparently you missed my point entirely. it doesnt matter what we think, public opinion and laws are what count. if we can prove stoners are responsible human beings think of the benefits. caffeine and nicotine are easily as bad as pot, much worse considering the dependancy effects and...
  14. M

    NO! On Prop 19

    read the quoted part please. that is a section striaght from prop 19. it doesnt matter if grow area is stated or not. people who are permitted for marijuana use under 215 are exempt from any and all regulations of 19. plain and simple sb 420 doesnt mention a confined grow area therefore you are...
  15. M

    NO! On Prop 19

    you know damn well why cigarettes arent a crime to smoke in front of kids. it most definitely should be imo. thats just not gonna be possible. second, marijuana is a schedule 1 substance under federal law and therefore has to be regulated and restricted. caffein alcohol and tobacco arent even on...
  16. M

    Prop 19 Explained: Common Questions and Misperceptions

    well lucky for us, one of the intents of the bill is to protect medical patient rights while providing a reasonable market and restriction to adults who dont want to get permitted to do so. so that seems impossible
  17. M

    NO! On Prop 19

    cultivation is indeed exempt, go read section 2b-8 of 19. 2b-7 indeed does not mention cultivation, but 2b-7 is the situation in which 19 is not enacted in the county. while 2b-8 is, and what it does is assure exemption from cultivation, limits, and restrictions. basically everything. how do you...
  18. M

    NO! On Prop 19

    i only said that for claritys sake. some people are still confused on that point. but why are you worried about that? all that is gonna do is provide competition between the mass produced/quality market make prices cheaper to the consumer on both spectrums. my point of view, thats a good thing.
  19. M

    NO! On Prop 19

    no actually. most of the people i know who thought to vote no heard some bs and made decisions without even reading the proposition. i then turned them to real thing and showed them with their own eyes how theyre current limits are exempt. but pure legal proof isnt enough for some people...
  20. M

    NO! On Prop 19

    well if theyre growin commercially in cali already that has nothing to do with the smugglers. the smugglers probably sell most their shit in the other 35+ without mmj laws because nobody likes to smoke that bs here. ive got a feeling this wont hurt them in the slightest. either way vote YES.
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