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    Obama and McCain Suck Up to the Bankers | | AlterNet

    By Robert Scheer, Truthdig. Posted July 30, 2008.

    Both candidates are scrambling to enlist the expertise of the geniuses who helped spur our economic meltdown.

    This is a time to condemn the bankers, not to embrace them. They are the scoundrels who got us into the biggest economic mess since the Great Depression, lining their own pockets while destroying the life savings of those who trusted them. Yet both of our leading presidential candidates are scrambling to enlist not only the big-dollar contributions but, more frighteningly, the "expertise" of the very folks who advocated the financial industry deregulations at the heart of this meltdown.

    Republican candidate John McCain even appointed as his campaign co-chairman Phil Gramm, who went from being chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, where he sponsored disastrous legislation that empowered the banking bandits, to becoming one of them at UBS Warburg. Gramm was forced to resign from McCain's campaign only after he went public with his contempt for the financial concerns of ordinary Americans, calling them "whiners" and perpetrators of a "mental recession."

    But Gramm and the Republicans couldn't have done it without the support of leading Democrats. The most egregious of Gramm's legislative favors to the financiers took the form of legislation named in part after him -- the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which became law only after then-Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin prevailed upon President Clinton to sign the bill. The bill's immediate major effect was to legitimize the long-sought merger between Citibank and insurance giant Travelers. Rubin's critical support for the bill was rewarded with an appointment, within days of its passage, to a top job at Citibank (later Citigroup) paying more than $15 million a year.

    That is the same Rubin with whom Democratic candidate Barack Obama met, along with other influential advisers, on Tuesday to figure out what to do about the sorry state of our economy. But what in the world did he expect to learn from Rubin? And why did he appoint Rubin's protégé, Jason Furman, who ran the Rubin-funded Hamilton Project, to be the Obama campaign's economic director? Hopefully, during their encounter Tuesday, Rubin offered himself as a contrite model of everything that the candidate of change needs to change.

    After all, Goldman Sachs, where Rubin spent 25 years of his business career before entering the Clinton administration, has been one of the prime corporate villains in the financial shenanigans that led to the subprime mortgage scandal. As co-chairman of the firm, surely he had knowledge of the financial hanky-panky that would prove so disastrous down the road. Indeed, as Treasury secretary, he favored an extension of the deregulation that enabled this explosion of banking avarice. Not surprisingly, the current Treasury secretary, Henry Paulson, also previously headed Goldman.

    When Rubin assumed a top position at Citibank after his stint at the Treasury, he was not above influencing his former employees in the government. In one notorious instance during the fall of 2001, when Enron was going down the tubes Rubin telephoned a Treasury undersecretary and asked him to consider intervening with credit-rating agencies to hold off downgrading Enron's ratings. When the story was leaked, some media accounts noted the possibility of a conflict of interest because Enron owed Citibank $750 million, which it could not pay if bankrupt.

    Despite his skills and his vaunted position as Citibank's chairman, Rubin was not spared the disastrous consequences of Citibank's own wild financial manipulations, which, if anything, exceeded those of Enron. Tens of billions in bad mortgage and credit card debt placed the bank at the forefront of the current economic crisis, and so it is weird that Obama would now turn to Rubin for advice.

    It's even weirder that the presumptive Democratic nominee would pick Rubin's man Furman as his campaign economic director at a time when cleaning up the mess left by the bankers is the highest priority. Furman hardly distinguished himself four years ago in that role in John Kerry's failed presidential campaign, with its muffled economic message that could not be blamed on the candidate's stiff style alone.

    The bigger problem is that folks such as Rubin and Furman, perhaps best known as an economist for his bold but woefully misguided defense of the Wal-Mart business model, clearly do not feel the pain of the voters who are losing their homes.

    But then again, why should Rubin, or Gramm on the Republican side, be expected to care when he has made so many millions off the suffering of those voters? Not good at a time when we need a presidential candidate who sticks it to the bankers instead of sucking up to them.
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    "But then again, why should Rubin, or Gramm on the Republican side, be expected to care when he has made so many millions off the suffering of those voters? Not good at a time when we need a presidential candidate who sticks it to the bankers instead of sucking up to them."

    Like Ron Paul for instance? You DO remember Ron Paul, don't you Mr. Scheer? He's the guy who ran on the Republican ticket ... the guy that you and your fellow arrogant liberals treated with such disrespect. He's the guy you treated like a freaking idiot during the debates. He's the guy who you loved to ignore. He's the guy who has the goods on our country's socialized/fascist monetary system. He's the guy who understands when a government separates the citizens money from gold, government, in effect, is separating the citizens from their economic liberty. He's the guy who has been writing books on the subject for years. He, like no other in Congress for the past 70 years, has been speaking out against these "bankers" like no other.

    And, why no mention, Mr. Scheer, of the misdirected monetary policies of the Federal Reserve that inflated the money supply to such an extent that the country was awash in funny-money to lend? Why no mention of government's race-wealth redistribution policies that required, or in fascists terms, forced lenders to loan to minority sub prime borrowers?

    Robert Scheer isn't likely to gore his own oxen in his attempt, no matter how justified, to slander the other side. He's just another ultra-leftist/fascist who hates America.

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    And then comes the question, who can you trust? Maybe we should appoint Ron Paul to repair our economy, well the PTB would have none of that. Lying, cheating, thieving, whoring scumbags that they are, that's what being unconcerned about politics gets you, just watch TV and go back to sleep. Find me one honest man???
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    Exactly right, Med.

    Hey, wait a minute ... are we finally winning you over?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViRedd View Post
    Exactly right, Med.

    Hey, wait a minute ... are we finally winning you over?

    Vi
    I never doubted Pauls sincerity, I questioned a few of his get rid of government and privatize everything bullshit, but also thought he had some good ideas, like getting rid of the fed, reigning in our foriegn policy, ending the war, disolving the CIA and other spy agencies and downsizing govt. at all levels. It was his referances to ending social programs and relying on charity to feed and house the poor that left me cold, well that and the fear that he'd fuck with my SS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViRedd View Post
    "But then again, why should Rubin, or Gramm on the Republican side, be expected to care when he has made so many millions off the suffering of those voters? Not good at a time when we need a presidential candidate who sticks it to the bankers instead of sucking up to them."

    Like Ron Paul for instance? You DO remember Ron Paul, don't you Mr. Scheer? He's the guy who ran on the Republican ticket ... the guy that you and your fellow arrogant liberals treated with such disrespect. He's the guy you treated like a freaking idiot during the debates. He's the guy who you loved to ignore. He's the guy who has the goods on our country's socialized/fascist monetary system. He's the guy who understands when a government separates the citizens money from gold, government, in effect, is separating the citizens from their economic liberty. He's the guy who has been writing books on the subject for years. He, like no other in Congress for the past 70 years, has been speaking out against these "bankers" like no other.

    And, why no mention, Mr. Scheer, of the misdirected monetary policies of the Federal Reserve that inflated the money supply to such an extent that the country was awash in funny-money to lend? Why no mention of government's race-wealth redistribution policies that required, or in fascists terms, forced lenders to loan to minority sub prime borrowers?

    Robert Scheer isn't likely to gore his own oxen in his attempt, no matter how justified, to slander the other side. He's just another ultra-leftist/fascist who hates America.

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    Vi, what does this rant have to do with the Fact that McCain and Obama are sucking up to the bankers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dankdude View Post
    Vi, what does this rant have to do with the Fact that McCain and Obama are sucking up to the bankers?
    It has everything to do with it when one considers that Scheer attacks Obama and McCain, but doesn't address the real problem. You see Dank, the real problem is exactly what Scheer and his fellow travelers love. To correct the Real Problem, would mean the end of their beloved fascist/socialist welfare state. That's the secret they don't want uncovered, and they will use any diversionary tactic to keep the lid on it.

    Honestly, could you have posted from a more unreliable source for the truth? I don't think so. Unless, of course, your source was Noam Chomsky.

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    Vi I don't even read Chomsky, so how would you know whom my source was?
    I will say that your views aren't even close to utopia either.
    You see I don't have to read anyone, I think for myself and form my ideas and not by reading someone else opinion of how society should be.
    I posted an article, some else worte it, don't shoot the messinger.
    Had you clicked the link at the top of the article you would see that I didn't write it.
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    Oh, Man, Dank ... !! I know you didn't write the article. And, I know you don't read Chomsky too. Hell man, if you started quoting Chomsky, I'd disown you ... and that would mean no more cookie payoffs for my lost bets.

    I was just making a point with my Chomsky comment.

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    Some of the bankers do not understand the needs of Americans. Fewer yet even care about individual problems. Politicians either love or hate bankers. Most of Congress takes the path of least resistance and offer up solutions that are too little and too late.

    The smartest move John Mc Cain has made was to add Carly to his advisory staff. This woman has brains, balls, and charm. I hope he gets rid of old farts like Gramm. Carly would make a great running mate. She understands Money & Banking and Technology.



    Carly Fiorina
    Former CEO, HP Carleton S. (Carly) Fiorina was president and chief executive officer of Hewlett-Packard Company from 1999 to 2005. She served as chairman of the board from 2000 to 2005.

    Prior to joining HP, Fiorina spent nearly 20 years at AT&T and Lucent Technologies, where she held a number of senior leadership positions and directed Lucent's initial public offering and subsequent spin-off from AT&T.

    Fiorina was named an honorary fellow of the London Business School in July 2001. In 2002, she was honored with the Appeal of Conscience Award, and in 2003 she received the Concern Worldwide "seeds of Hope" Award in recognition of her worldwide efforts to make global citizenship a priority for business.

    The Private Sector Council honored Fiorina with its 2004 Leadership Award for her contributions to improving the business of government. Also in 2004, the White House appointed her to the U.S. Space Commission.

    Fiorina has a bachelor's degree in medieval history and philosophy from Stanford University. She holds a master's degree in business administration from the Robert H. Smith School of Business at the University of Maryland at College Park, Md., and a master of science degree from MIT's Sloan School.
    Related Links: www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/bios/fiorina.html
    Last Updated: Thu, Apr 5, 2007
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