Originally Posted by Fake Plastic Trees

Ok I have to ask I cannot stop myself. Why do you believe this to be true?

Btw I am just interested to know, there's no way I will be drawn into an argument with you, there are too many people respect you on here, me included.

Originally Posted by 7xstall

sounds like definite anger, if not hate. well, i agree about the televangelist crowd... a bunch of crooks and robbers, imo. the best place i've ever been to church is alone on top of a mountain in N.C. at about -5f in January, i don't know how many miles from civilization, with just my pack and the horizon. that's where i confronted just how tiny we are and how significant it is that we even matter at all.

i don't know any Christian who doesn't believe in an eventual Rapture of some sort. so, what do you make of all the ancient prophesies that seem to be lining up with current events. the creation of Israel in one day without a war. the move toward global government, cashless society. the constant wars and war loving people running rampant killing and destroying all that they can. what about the fact that so many people are blind to the culture of death, secrets and deception we live in? do you not think God will tire of all these shenanigans and hand out some old-skool wrath? i mean, think about it... you're God. you send your Son and he suffers tremendously then dies a shameful death for all of humanity. his hand picked followers spread the word about his deeds and the miracles they saw first hand but people start to drift away. they forget and start to think maybe it's just a "fairy tale", maybe he was just a neat "spiritual leader". today, you've got money loving pigs rolling all over the city you gave your people several thousand years ago, they're pretending to be worshiping you while they conceal many facts about your Son's life from their followers... you see courts being judged by women (something you said not to do), you see openly immoral sexual perverts running the governments. seriously, if you were God, and if we really were created in His image, wouldn't you be getting near the end of your rope? even Jesus put a finite limit on the number of times we should forgive those who tread on us... ("not seven times but seventy times seven")

I pretty much agree with you on most of the above, the women and courts thing seems a little out of context, are you saying God was a sexist. I've personally felt that If I were God, I'd have destroyed this place a long time ago, but I'm not. I do wonder why he lets it continue. Here's my theory based on a few hours of mind expanding drugs and contemplation of things outside the Bible: Earth is a learning place. In the grand scheme of things, this is the war planet ("There will be wars and rumors of wars"). There are zillions of habitable planets in the universe. When our time here is done (Death) we move on to rebirth on another planet. Although I find it hard to imagine a worse planet for punishment for those that have screwed the pooch so to say, I'm pretty sure there are planets with a higher understanding of peace and love than this one. Your spirit is moved from planet to planet untill you have reached one with God. At this point you no longer exist as a human, (No body) and are pure spirit, one spirit with God.
The goal is love. Attaining a pure state of love is being one with God, as God is pure love. This is of course only pure conjecture as I have no proof, but it seems to make more sense than all good boys and girls go to heaven. How can you learn enough in one lifetime to be one with God, Even Budda and Krishna never attained that plateau. The children that die young are spared the trials of life on this planet and go to a more peaceful one. I know we aren't supposed to second guess the "bible", But that is a book written by men, translated many times, and I'm pretty sure, influenced by the times in which they were translated. Are there many truths in the Bible, well yes. Are there many things that are misinterpreted or misunderstood, I believe so. Are we to believe word for word as the complete truth to be obeyed to the letter, I think not

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Originally Posted by fdd2blk

i just can't believe we are changing the WHOLE climate of this planet. every time you exhale CO2 is emitted. should we work on population control?

I drive a V8 with a 4 barrel.

i'm reading this book. it's fiction but it's based on actual facts.

MichaelCrichton.com | State of Fear




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global warming is caused by the burning of fossil fuels yet the world is at war to see who can get their hands on the most of it.


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Originally Posted by fdd2blk

i'm reading this book. it's fiction but it's based on actual facts.

MichaelCrichton.com | State of Fear

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Originally Posted by medicineman

:razz::razz::razz:

Originally Posted by fdd2blk

how the hell do we go from global warming to god? just wondering.

Originally Posted by medicineman

I pretty much agree with you on most of the above, the women and courts thing seems a little out of context, are you saying God was a sexist. I've personally felt that If I were God, I'd have destroyed this place a long time ago, but I'm not. I do wonder why he lets it continue. Here's my theory based on a few hours of mind expanding drugs and contemplation of things outside the Bible: Earth is a learning place. In the grand scheme of things, this is the war planet ("There will be wars and rumors of wars"). There are zillions of habitable planets in the universe. When our time here is done (Death) we move on to rebirth on another planet. Although I find it hard to imagine a worse planet for punishment for those that have screwed the pooch so to say, I'm pretty sure there are planets with a higher understanding of peace and love than this one. Your spirit is moved from planet to planet untill you have reached one with God. At this point you no longer exist as a human, (No body) and are pure spirit, one spirit with God.
The goal is love. Attaining a pure state of love is being one with God, as God is pure love. This is of course only pure conjecture as I have no proof, but it seems to make more sense than all good boys and girls go to heaven. How can you learn enough in one lifetime to be one with God, Even Budda and Krishna never attained that plateau. The children that die young are spared the trials of life on this planet and go to a more peaceful one. I know we aren't supposed to second guess the "bible", But that is a book written by men, translated many times, and I'm pretty sure, influenced by the times in which they were translated. Are there many truths in the Bible, well yes. Are there many things that are misinterpreted or misunderstood, I believe so. Are we to believe word for word as the complete truth to be obeyed to the letter, I think not

Originally Posted by 7xstall

of course God isn't a sexist when He created women in the first place. men will be subject to the judgment of women, that's another prophetic sign in the bible. the reason that's strange in a biblical sense is because a woman is not made to be a judge just as a man is not made to be a mother... no matter how horrifically one may mutilate himself with plastic surgery.

if you doubt the integrity of the modern bible you'd be wise to study the Dead Sea scrolls... it's amazing how perfectly the modern "copies" match the ancient originals. there are absolutely no errors despite thousands of years difference in age.

i'm with you on the damnation thing, i'd have thrown us all into hell long ago - without a moment of hesitation.





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