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Old 07-18-2008, 12:54 PM
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I enjoy putting together dark short spoken word films.
listed on youtube under, djoepro.
So, I was thinking what is the worst thing that could happen to me outside of dieing or being very sick.
It's became pretty clear that I have a fear of being alone and homeless.
Since I live in a city, I have no shortage of bums hanging around.
So, I got to thinking that making a film would be a good idea.
Why are they homeless?
What got them into this position?
What do they think about us?(none homeless)
potus race? Iran/Iraq?
drug use/sex/food and other thoughts of life.

Some have said that there is only 1 america, no matter what position in life you might be in.

Ive been speaking with 10 people while filming in the last month.
What I have so far is a very sad and shocking american life style.
I need time to edit it down and add more questions,I'd say around 2 months and it should be 100% finished.
Just wanted to post what Ive been up too!
When ready I'll post the link.
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Old 07-18-2008, 01:32 PM
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Some are mentally ill.

Some are addicted to various substances.

Most, when offered shelter, turn it down. They would rather stay out on the street chasing the dragon.

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Some are mentally ill.

Some are addicted to various substances.


Most, when offered shelter, turn it down. They would rather stay out on the street chasing the dragon.
there are as many reasons for homelessness as there are for any other situation. arbitrarily classifying an entire group based on the observations of a few is just as wrong as med's irrational hatred of the rich and just as unwarranted.
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there are as many reasons for homelessness as there are for any other situation. arbitrarily classifying an entire group based on the observations of a few is just as wrong as med's irrational hatred of the rich and just as unwarranted.
Whats so irrational? I'm pretty sure most poor people don't look favorably on the rich. They never have since time immemorial, Did the serfs like the king, I think not, there are just a lot more kings, and I say Fuck em. Their time is coming, remember the eye of the needle thingy. You think you have the last word on subjects, but I see flaws in your reasoning just as you see them in mine, No-one is perfect, just some of are more rational than others~LOL~.
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I enjoy putting together dark short spoken word films.
listed on youtube under, djoepro.
So, I was thinking what is the worst thing that could happen to me outside of dieing or being very sick.
It's became pretty clear that I have a fear of being alone and homeless.
Since I live in a city, I have no shortage of bums hanging around.
So, I got to thinking that making a film would be a good idea.
Why are they homeless?
What got them into this position?
What do they think about us?(none homeless)
potus race? Iran/Iraq?
drug use/sex/food and other thoughts of life.

Some have said that there is only 1 america, no matter what position in life you might be in.

Ive been speaking with 10 people while filming in the last month.
What I have so far is a very sad and shocking american life style.
I need time to edit it down and add more questions,I'd say around 2 months and it should be 100% finished.
Just wanted to post what Ive been up too!
When ready I'll post the link.
Joe, I watched a few of your videos, pretty dark is right. I see you have talent and also like old cars/trucks. I have a 500hp 62 nova ht, a project that I may get the energy to finish some day, maybe I'll post a pic. Geeze that crackhead taking a dump ended my watching, that was gross.
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there are as many reasons for homelessness as there are for any other situation. arbitrarily classifying an entire group based on the observations of a few is just as wrong as med's irrational hatred of the rich and just as unwarranted.
I agree that there are many reasons ... I posted two of them. Two of the major ones ... mental illness and addiction problems.

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Henry is a vet who is 44 yrs old.
He has been homless since 96'
Known on the street as 'fisher king.'
In 94' his family(wife and 2 boys)was killed in a car accident .
He made a good living and lived in the suburbs and came from a large family.
Within 2 years he lost everything and hit the streets, where he became a heroin junky and drunk. In and out of jail and lost all contact with any family or friends.
....He battles mental illness/addicted to wine: VI called it, not one person that I spoke to didnt have a mental problem.Yes, long term drug use can lead to mental issues.
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Old 07-18-2008, 02:23 PM
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Henry is a vet who is 44 yrs old.
He has been homless since 96'
Known on the street as 'fisher king.'
In 94' his family(wife and 2 boys)was killed in a car accident .
He made a good living and lived in the suburbs and came from a large family.
Within 2 years he lost everything and hit the streets, where he became a heroin junky and drunk. In and out of jail and lost all contact with any family or friends.
....He battles mental illness/addicted to wine: VI called it, not one person that I spoke to didnt have a mental problem.Yes, long term drug use can lead to mental issues.
And thanks to that cunt Ronald Reagan, they closed all the mental hospitals where these poor souls could find refuge from the streets. I do have a vested interest in the mentaly ill. my stepson that was raised by his wealthy father untill he made him fucking crazy and gave him back to his mother where he belonged in the first place when he was already twisted at 17 is a real schizophrenic. The anguish this poor soul endures would have already made me take my life on to greener pastures. He has good days and bad, the bad are really bad. He fell down his condos stone stairs last week, they found him unconscious at the bottom of the stairs, Man it's a miracle he didn't break anything but he was plenty fucked up. I've seen biker stompings that didn't look this bad.
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Whats so irrational? I'm pretty sure most poor people don't look favorably on the rich. They never have since time immemorial, Did the serfs like the king, I think not, there are just a lot more kings, and I say Fuck em. Their time is coming, remember the eye of the needle thingy.
i doubt that those of the poor who are trapped in a cycle of self-pity look favorably on anyone who can afford more than they can. that is, after all, the segment of the population you are championing, those too wrapped up in their own failure to worry about anything more than their own imagined entitlements. all this drivel about serfs and kings is the sort of overblown rhetoric we have come to expect as prelude to some half-baked socialist scheme to free us all from ourselves and, coincidentally, it's why we love you so.
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And thanks to that cunt Ronald Reagan, they closed all the mental hospitals where these poor souls could find refuge from the streets.
What Med has posted above is nothing more than a lie that has been told so often, that its now taken as truth. That dupes like Med actually believe this crap, and repeat it endlessly, is positive proof, and a glaring example, that the progressives and the useful idiots following them are plainly ignorant of history. Either that, or its an excellent example of the lengths they will go to discredit one of the greatest presidents the country has known.

Ronald Reagan served as governor of California between 1967-1975.

In 1969, The ACLU sued the State of California's mental hospital system and won, making it illegal to hold anyone in a mental hospital against their will. As a result, the mentally ill were released into the street and upon society in general. As the population of the institutions decreased, some hospitals were closed. As of this date, five of California's twelve institutions have closed, with another one possibly to be closed soon.

In other words, thanks to the ACLU and their fellow travellers, it is against the law to place people in mental institutions against their will. Again, as I said before, most of the homeless on the street want to stay on the street and chase the dragon.

Just more unintended consequences of the "progressive" do gooders.

Here's to ya Med:





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