I for one don't believe in "evil-incarnate", some people are just extremely misguided.

Just because you want another option to violence, hate, oppression, prejudice and other inherently nasty things doesn't mean that you automatically have a step-by-step plan to create a perfect world.

And I didn't know the thread was on politics, I thought it was a future history book scenario. But in fairness, History IS written by the victors...

Im sure that the people committing those atrocities dont even see their victims as human beings, in essence they have been dehumanised.
It is hard to imagine that as a little boy of say, 5 years old, Osama had dreams of destroying western capitalism, he was merely misguided by adults with "isms". Idealism, anti-Americanism, narcissism.
The exact same thing occurs in every other part of the world - republicanism, imperialism, egoism.

I think when GK says that we are members of the same family, he is completely right.

"We have to fight, we have no choice"?!
Emmmm... I choose to uninvolve myself with my predecessors negative "isms".
Im like Captain Nemo without a submarine ...... Man it'd be cool to have that submarine...

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Hi Poe....Interesting post....Jules Verne was a great writer who saw the future with eerie prescience!

I am an agnostic, but I believe in the existence of pure evil!
Some people do very, very bad things....someone has to stop them from doing these things...
Otherwise they ruin it for everyone else!

Remember these are our SELF AVOWED enemies. They volunteered to have bull’s-eyes put on their heads!
They are begging us to shoot them….this is our moral imperative…IMO!

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Hey Wavels

You're an agnostic and you believe in evil incarnate, slight oxymoron no?
Human beings, sadly, are capable of great evil. If you have 20 mins to spare Id recommend watching this :

Human Behavior Experiments 2 of 4 - Google Video

It shows that even someone who could never dream of doing evil things, when put in the right situation, can.

Please don't say "Our self-avowed enemies", they're not mine.
It is never someone's "moral imperative" to take another life, never.

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I drove through the syrian desert from (beruit into turkey) twice.... I have chilled in Chechnya, walked the streets of Damascus, Nairobi, Paris, NYC, Warsaw, Beruit, Mombasa, Santo Domingo, Los Angles, . and the list goes on... and on... over 40 countries.. i walk the planet and see nothing but ME.. it is just more humans with the same issues I have.. manifesting in different ways....

With this realization I have infinite compassion

I have been threatened by gun point (many times).. and 3 times by knife (first time was in the 7th grade in the Bronx) and several other times...

Most of these people I have made friends with.. Not all..some I ran from... and never looked back...

I am LOVE.. I just keep telling myself that I am LOVE.. I expect to be loved.. I expect to LOVE... there is nothing spiritual about it... it is just as much spiritual as it is science.....

I KNOW THAT THE WOLRD GIVES ME EXACTLY WHAT I GIVE IT...

anybody can learn this by simply sitting and watching ONEs thughts.. the world is nothing BUT your thoughts...

have you seen ground hog day with Bill Murray? This is how most people live.. but because their days are cloaked in different cloth everyday.. they think the days are different... But it is the same..

UNTIL ONE wakes up... UNTIL one sits and with ALL their might stops reacting.....and just watches the thoughts... one will stay asleep.. with the illusion of being awake...

When ONE watches LIFE with the complete attention as if you were in a room trapped wth a cobra... don't let that cobra out of your site.. DONT REACT...!!!!!!!!!!! dont react to life and ONE can actual wake up and see. that everything that comes YOUr way has been called by you.. and then you never have to react again.. YOU CAN actually ACT

ACTING requires being awake.. and not reacting.. ONE can not know what acting is until one stops reacting....

So..your afraid of terrorists.. or you belive in terrorists.. you belive that the car outside is yours and that you need an alram to protect it from getting stolen..

well guess what.. it is all coming.. like the ultimate santa claus..everything ONE thinks is COMING your way...

so I make sure I watch my THOUGHTS.. i practie twice a day everyday.. and I try to watch at all times.... all moments... I watch them and I take responsibiliy for them....


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If a bus is coming towards me, I move (one time in Belfast a man threw me on the ground and saved my life, as I almost got hit by a bus)

Nobody is fighting for me... NOBODY I would never ask anybody to do for me.. what I am not willing to do for myself.. this is one of the "rules" to staying awake... (there are no rules)

I picture peace covering the planet everyday.. I sit and picture peace for everyone..

iloveyou

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there is no eveil here...
it is just people..

name calling is JUST the mind trying to give itself false identity (by differenciating itself from others) and the security of understanding...

NAMING is the origin of all particular things - lao tzu

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I think there is a reason to set a timeline. And while I don't often agree with Carl Levin, he has this one right. It is time the Iraqi people take over thier own country. 70% voted. The report listing the Iraqi death total at over 600,000 had been widely criticized, but is now being considered accurate. 2million people have left the country. Most of the people being killed by bombs are Iraqi's. Deadlines bring results. We need to get out of the way.

very interesting post GK, have you read "The Power of Intention"? the author describes the interaction/exchange of people with the universe in a manor very similar to what you have laid out.

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I have not read that book.. but I will look it up.. thank you 7x..

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Yes, thanks G.K. , someone who I can agree with, Please let me add this, after all since this is about WAR on terror and all I think A SUN TZU quote is appropriate" to destroy yoyr enemys army is second best,the best is to preserve it and use it as your own" the point is , this is the war of ideology,to kill millions of people, even if they are muslim fundamentalists is immoral and close to impossible, what we have to do is to win the war in theyr heads, we have to show them by example that we are loving and just people, we cannot drop to theyr level, the only option we are left with is to elevate us and them to a level G.K. is talking about, JUST HUMAN

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