Guess who voted in favor of more wiretapping?

VTXDave · #1 07-10-2008, 06:33 AM

Let's see how the Senate voted....
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=2&vote=00168
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/200...ss-passes.html

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"This may be a historical embarrassment," senator Arlen Specter (R-Pennsylvania) protested Wednesday morning on the Senate floor. "Everyone knows we don't know what the program did, but here we are giving immunity to the telephone companies."

hom36rown · #2 07-10-2008, 07:04 AM

I was wathcing bush give his speech about this yesterday, and at one point he said something to effect that this was in full respect of americans civil liberties, and you could sorta see him crack a smile as he said it lol

hom36rown · #3 07-10-2008, 07:10 AM

obama atleast voted against the part that would give telcom immunity didnt he?

pandabear · #4 07-10-2008, 07:42 AM

you guys as long as they dont use the tapping for anythign but terrorists im 100% in favor wouldnt u be?

VTXDave · #5 07-10-2008, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by hom36rown

obama atleast voted against the part that would give telcom immunity didnt he?

Nope. It doesn't work that way. wow....Let's see....the "Candidate for Change" has now voted for continued funding of the war and has now voted to continue FISA in it's current form. Guess we need to redefine "change", yes?

LocoMonkey · #6 07-10-2008, 08:00 AM

You either vote for or against.

VTXDave · #7 07-10-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pandabear

you guys as long as they dont use the tapping for anythign but terrorists im 100% in favor wouldnt u be?

As one who works for a telco and have met w/ the Feds regarding FISA and CALEA, I am not in favor of ANY form of warrantless wiretapping as it fundamentally violates the US Constitution. The Federal gov't now has the ability to insidiously monitor voice/data traffic out of telcos across the nation without even having to ask permission to perform said wiretap(s).

medicineman · #8 07-10-2008, 08:18 AM

This is a disgrace to Obama and a large hole has just been ripped in our 4th amendment. Although this makes me distrust the candidate for change a little more, he's still 10 times better than the altermative. I'm starting to think the PTB have gotten to him. To let the telecoms and the bush regime off the hook, is well, off the hook! I wonder what drives these insane congressmen when they blatantly pull something like this, disgraceful to say the least, criminal to put it more succinctly. How do you straighten out our country when the leaders are all, but a few, crooks and liars. I see less and less difference between the dems and repukes with every passing day.

hom36rown · #9 07-10-2008, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by LocoMonkey

You either vote for or against.

yes thanks

.... I was under the impression that there was a vote to ammend the bill to leave out the part about giving immunity to telecom, and that is what I was reffering too...I am aware that you can only vote yes or no

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., issued a statement in support of the House’s update of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, but said he would try to strip a provision granting immunity to telecommunication companies when the bill comes to a vote in the Senate next week.

medicineman · #10 07-10-2008, 08:47 AM

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., issued a statement in support of the House’s update of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, but said he would try to strip a provision granting immunity to telecommunication companies when the bill comes to a vote in the Senate next week.

He didn't succeed and voted for it anyway, Left me "flummoxed" you might say, I believe also in this bill that the MSM is not talking about at all, is a provision that would let Bush and his cronies off for every crime they've ever committed, past, present, or future. Weve gone way past "1984", Orwell was right.