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Where is this happening in Iowa? I havent heard anything....
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This same thing is happening in IOWA as we speak. I swear people are gonna start capping police like crazy.
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So, when they start capping police (Don't get me wrong here, I have no love for police) but who will stand between us and MS13, the 18th street gang, the northern hispanics or the gangs of any colors. I'm pretty sure they'd take over in short order if Police control disspeared.
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So, when they start capping police (Don't get me wrong here, I have no love for police) but who will stand between us and MS13, the 18th street gang, the northern hispanics or the gangs of any colors. I'm pretty sure they'd take over in short order if Police control disspeared.
I would think it would be hard for the 'gangs' to "take over" an armed and informed public. How do you think they handled things back 100 years ago.

Gangs are not going to mess with citizens, if the citizens just shot the police.. They would have to be mental...HAHA.. Ever heard of "Neighborhood Watch" (just my two cents, as I have no idea as to what would unfold)

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Its not the police who are the problem, its US. Read Dave's excellent post number six in this thread.

The problem is, most Americans haven't a clue regarding their constitutional rights. If one gives permission for the police to search without a warrant, then one has legally given up his/her Fourth Amendment right to be secure in one's papers and effects. You see it all time on the program "Cops." They pull a couple of guys over because of a faulty tail light. They issue an equipment warning, then say ... "Is there anything in the car I should know about? The driver says "no." The cop says: "do you mind if I look?" The driver says: "I guess not." Right there at that point, the driver gives up his Fourth Amendment right to be free of warrantless searches. Same thing when one is stopped at a DUI checkpoint. They ALWAYS place a sign notifying of the stop ahead. If you continue on after the sign, you give up your right to be free of the search because the sign is constructive notice.

Kudos to Dave for standing his ground. By standing his ground, he in effect, beat back the power of the state. Very patriotic move there Dave.

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Its not the police who are the problem, its US. Read Dave's excellent post number six in this thread.

The problem is, most Americans haven't a clue regarding their constitutional rights. If one gives permission for the police to search without a warrant, then one has legally given up his/her Fourth Amendment right to be secure in one's papers and effects. You see it all time on the program "Cops." They pull a couple of guys over because of a faulty tail light. They issue an equipment warning, then say ... "Is there anything in the car I should know about? The driver says "no." The cop says: "do you mind if I look?" The driver says: "I guess not." Right there at that point, the driver gives up his Fourth Amendment right to be free of warrantless searches. Same thing when one is stopped at a DUI checkpoint. They ALWAYS place a sign notifying of the stop ahead. If you continue on after the sign, you give up your right to be free of the search because the sign is constructive notice.

Kudos to Dave for standing his ground. By standing his ground, he in effect, beat back the power of the state. Very patriotic move there Dave.

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Very patriotic move there Dave.

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