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Old 07-06-2008, 09:10 AM
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so, we are already making excuses for the inevitable failure of that great savior brak. as he makes that slow slide toward the right, will his halo seem a bit askew? after a couple years of a democrat controlled congress, haven't y'all figured out that the party of the downtrodden is no more interested in your pathetic puling than the fat cats you so abhor? your innocence is so quaint, your single minded animosity so naive.

sure the great savior is going to reign in those evil corporations. just as soon as they are no longer of use to him, right after pigs fly. maybe he'll take a cue from maxine waters and socialize...um...take over those evil oil companies. i'm pretty sure she feels that hugo chavez is a kindred spirit. i'm positive he'll stop the iraq war. after he's had a chance to confer with a score of military advisers and when the timing is right to further his own agenda. of course he'll see to it that all of our freedoms are restored. well, maybe he might just stall on that for a while. you never can tell when extraordinary executive powers might just come in handy while attempting to remake the country into a stalinist paradise.

after years of enslaving the lower class with their welfare state mentality, the liberal elite has no wish to enslave the middle class. their goal is to decimate it, to even out that playing field so that we can all live in the sort of comfortable poverty to which they think we should become accustomed. while the progressive leadership joins the rich in lording it over us mere peons and petty bureaucrats line their pockets by skimming off of a myriad of corrupt social programs, the rest of us can all march to a jaunty martial tune courtesy of an obama expanded military.

what seems pretty lame is that anyone could possibly believe the false promises of change and the smooth patter of just another huckster. yes, obama will most likely make it to the oval office. thanks to an ignorant public, sick to death of eight long years under the leadership of a moron and his henchmen, we will all get to see first hand what the true road to fascism looks like.
Do you have a positive bone in your pathetic body. All you do is preach doom and gloom. Anyone with half a braincell working should know there are no miracle men to turn this enslaved country around, yet when someone comes along and attempts to, you all yell traitor, faker, unpatriotic, and other demeaning and if I might say, rascist remarks about the only candidate in the race that even has a hint of change in his agendas. Yeah, we know the Jewmasters have the world sewn up in their litttle bags, but other than joining the synagog and professing to be one, I don't see a way out for the gentiles other than trying to vote for change. Call me what you will, but I will vote for the one that promises real change. Whether we will ever get it past the Jewmasters is doubtful.
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:30 AM
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"what seems pretty lame is that anyone could possibly believe the false promises of change and the smooth patter of just another huckster. yes, obama will most likely make it to the oval office. thanks to an ignorant public, sick to death of eight long years under the leadership of a moron and his henchmen, we will all get to see first hand what the true road to fascism looks like."

We've seen it before in other times, undertheice. You've obviously read your history ... and I've lived it. All one has to do is to watch the old news-reels of the public's devotion to Mussolini, Hitler, Mao and Stalin. Throngs of people chanting slogans with politicians offering the old bromides of change for the sake of change.

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"Do you have a positive bone in your pathetic body. All you do is preach doom and gloom. Anyone with half a braincell working should know there are no miracle men to turn this enslaved country around, yet when someone comes along and attempts to, you all yell traitor, faker, unpatriotic, and other demeaning and if I might say, rascist remarks about the only candidate in the race that even has a hint of change in his agendas. Yeah, we know the Jewmasters have the world sewn up in their litttle bags, but other than joining the synagog and professing to be one, I don't see a way out for the gentiles other than trying to vote for change. Call me what you will, but I will vote for the one that promises real change. Whether we will ever get it past the Jewmasters is doubtful."

And here we have the result ... another fascist with the "Jewish Problem" mentality of Mein Kamph.

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Do you have a positive bone in your pathetic body. All you do is preach doom and gloom. Anyone with half a braincell working should know there are no miracle men to turn this enslaved country around, yet when someone comes along and attempts to, you all yell traitor, faker, unpatriotic, and other demeaning and if I might say, rascist remarks about the only candidate in the race that even has a hint of change in his agendas. Yeah, we know the Jewmasters have the world sewn up in their litttle bags, but other than joining the synagog and professing to be one, I don't see a way out for the gentiles other than trying to vote for change. Call me what you will, but I will vote for the one that promises real change. Whether we will ever get it past the Jewmasters is doubtful.
Maybe you should take heed MM. You know Under is knowledgeable on politics and history.Why call him names when hes trying to be a whistle blower. This is simply his prediction, hopefully is is wrong but time will tell.. Keep an eye and ear open, maybe the people should be looking for the "big bad bogymen" in the gov't. Being ignorant gets a person nowhere.


UnderTheIce, I just want to say that reading your posts, is like reading political poetry(maybe you should start a book? ). I love the truth and the flowing eloquence you portray.

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Old 07-06-2008, 11:33 AM
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Do you have a positive bone in your pathetic body. All you do is preach doom and gloom. Anyone with half a braincell working should know there are no miracle men to turn this enslaved country around, yet when someone comes along and attempts to, you all yell traitor, faker, unpatriotic, and other demeaning and if I might say, racist remarks about the only candidate in the race that even has a hint of change in his agendas. Yeah, we know the Jewmasters have the world sewn up in their little bags, but other than joining the synagogue and professing to be one, I don't see a way out for the gentiles other than trying to vote for change. Call me what you will, but I will vote for the one that promises real change. Whether we will ever get it past the Jewmasters is doubtful.
what i preach is wariness, an attention to history and an awareness of the real social problems that plague this country. we don't require miracles from our leaders, but we should require honesty, foresight and maybe even a little greatness. any intelligent man would realize that your hero brak has none of these qualities and the path he leads us down is just as destructive as the path of the warmongers.

your reply is predictable and a bit sad. your accusations only mirror the epithets you heap on anyone who would dare to disagree with the party line. i find your remark about my supposed racism particularly amusing, as you proceed directly into a diatribe against the great international jewish conspiracy. that tired line was used in almost the exact same context by the roman catholic church and the third reich to justify their excesses, i can hardly wait to see how the compassionate left will use it this time around.

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....he's trying to be a whistle blower. This is simply his prediction, hopefully is is wrong but time will tell.. Keep an eye and ear open, maybe the people should be looking for the "big bad bogymen" in the gov't. Being ignorant gets a person nowhere.
being ignorant usually gets all the wrong people placed in power and it is quite obvious that ignorance is running rampant in our society. no matter how loudly the siren is sounded, the ignorant will never be able to see beyond their own noses. they seem to be incapable of understanding that the actions of today are less important than the results further down the path. the "big bad bogyman" is power and the all too human desire to possess more of it than we are entitled to.

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as i have said before, i am a legend in my own mind and i prefer to keep it that way. if i had a nickel for every manuscript page i've ever burned, i'd be a relatively wealthy man. the way i write and speak is the rather unfortunate outcome of being the hippie grandson of a baptist preacher, but i do appreciate the occasional praise. thanks.
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:39 AM
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Maybe you should take heed MM. You know Under is knowledgeable on politics and history.Why call him names when hes trying to be a whistle blower. This is simply his prediction, hopefully is is wrong but time will tell.. Keep an eye and ear open, maybe the people should be looking for the "big bad bogymen" in the gov't. Being ignorant gets a person nowhere.


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what i preach is wariness, an attention to history and an awareness of the real social problems that plague this country. we don't require miracles from our leaders, but we should require honesty, foresight and maybe even a little greatness. any intelligent man would realize that your hero brak has none of these qualities and the path he leads us down is just as destructive as the path of the warmongers.

your reply is predictable and a bit sad. your accusations only mirror the epithets you heap on anyone who would dare to disagree with the party line. i find your remark about my supposed racism particularly amusing, as you proceed directly into a diatribe against the great international jewish conspiracy. that tired line was used in almost the exact same context by the roman catholic church and the third reich to justify their excesses, i can hardly wait to see how the compassionate left will use it this time around.

being ignorant usually gets all the wrong people placed in power and it is quite obvious that ignorance is running rampant in our society. no matter how loudly the siren is sounded, the ignorant will never be able to see beyond their own noses. they seem to be incapable of understanding that the actions of today are less important than the results further down the path. the "big bad bogyman" is power and the all too human desire to possess more of it than we are entitled to.

as i have said before, i am a legend in my own mind and i prefer to keep it that way. if i had a nickel for every manuscript page i've ever burned, i'd be a relatively wealthy man. the way i write and speak is the rather unfortunate outcome of being the hippie grandson of a baptist preacher, but i do appreciate the occasional praise. thanks.
Hippie grandson of a Baptist preacher, huh? It has done wonders for you, although I'm sure you would have reached this pinnacle regardless.
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Undertheice sez ...

"what seems pretty lame is that anyone could possibly believe the false promises of change and the smooth patter of just another huckster. yes, obama will most likely make it to the oval office. thanks to an ignorant public, sick to death of eight long years under the leadership of a moron and his henchmen, we will all get to see first hand what the true road to fascism looks like."

We've seen it before in other times, undertheice. You've obviously read your history ... and I've lived it. All one has to do is to watch the old news-reels of the public's devotion to Mussolini, Hitler, Mao and Stalin. Throngs of people chanting slogans with politicians offering the old bromides of change for the sake of change.

Med sez ...

"Do you have a positive bone in your pathetic body. All you do is preach doom and gloom. Anyone with half a braincell working should know there are no miracle men to turn this enslaved country around, yet when someone comes along and attempts to, you all yell traitor, faker, unpatriotic, and other demeaning and if I might say, rascist remarks about the only candidate in the race that even has a hint of change in his agendas. Yeah, we know the Jewmasters have the world sewn up in their litttle bags, but other than joining the synagog and professing to be one, I don't see a way out for the gentiles other than trying to vote for change. Call me what you will, but I will vote for the one that promises real change. Whether we will ever get it past the Jewmasters is doubtful."

And here we have the result ... another fascist with the "Jewish Problem" mentality of Mein Kamph.

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Maybe you should take heed MM. You know Under is knowledgeable on politics and history.Why call him names when hes trying to be a whistle blower. This is simply his prediction, hopefully is is wrong but time will tell.. Keep an eye and ear open, maybe the people should be looking for the "big bad bogymen" in the gov't. Being ignorant gets a person nowhere.


UnderTheIce, I just want to say that reading your posts, is like reading political poetry(maybe you should start a book? ). I love the truth and the flowing eloquence you portray.

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We, don't get me wrong on this, I also think under is a very intelligent, eloquent purveyor of words. It's just that he is so negative. I can even agree with his assessments, but please, let us have some hope. We can all sit here and cast aspersions on Obama, or we can look at the positive side. Maybe something positive will come of his presidency. Hell, if he just stops the insane war he'll have done more for sanity that anyone in the last 12 years.
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"Maybe you should take heed MM"

Right... I didn't tell MM what to believe, but rather "maybe you should take heed". But to not have your own opinions and NOT able to voice your opinions without fear of malice, is unAmerican. (I wasn't trying to attack MM, but rather telling him to keep an open mind.. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Also, I know your post was not an attack towards me.)

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