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Old 06-25-2008, 12:47 PM
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Default Whats bad about being a liberal?

After years of never really thinking about it, i just looked up what exactly a "liberal" is. It was one of those words that you hear every day and not even realize that you dont know the definition.
So what the hell is bad about being a liberal, i never classified myself as a liberal but now id say sure why not. How come republicans talk about liberals as if they are just some hippy way of thinking.

Liberal (WordNet) :
adj 1: showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad
political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a
liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of his opponent's
opinions" [syn: broad, tolerant]
2: having political or social views favoring reform and
progress
3: tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism,
orthodoxy, or tradition [ant: conservative]
4: given or giving freely; "was a big tipper"; "the bounteous
goodness of God"; "bountiful compliments"; "a freehanded
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and giving"; "a liberal backer of the arts"; "a munificent
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bighearted, bounteous, bountiful, freehanded, handsome,
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liberalis, from liber free; perh. akin to libet, lubet, it
pleases, E. lief. Cf. Deliver.]
1. Free by birth; hence, befitting a freeman or gentleman;
refined; noble; independent; free; not servile or mean;
as, a liberal ancestry; a liberal spirit; liberal arts or
studies. `` Liberal education.'' --Macaulay. `` A liberal
tongue.'' --Shak.

2. Bestowing in a large and noble way, as a freeman;
generous; bounteous; open-handed; as, a liberal giver. ``
Liberal of praise.'' --Bacon.

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abundant; bountiful; ample; profuse; as, a liberal gift; a
liberal discharge of matter or of water.

His wealth doth warrant a liberal dower. --Shak.

4. Not strict or rigorous; not confined or restricted to the
literal sense; free; as, a liberal translation of a
classic, or a liberal construction of law or of language.

5. Not narrow or contracted in mind; not selfish; enlarged in
spirit; catholic.

6. Free to excess; regardless of law or moral restraint;
licentious. `` Most like a liberal villain.'' --Shak.
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:56 PM
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Well Obviously if you ARE a liberal, then you'll maintain that there's nothing bad about being a Liberal.

However, there are other ways of thinking. Some people strive for PERSONAL progress rather than social or political progress, and people who strive to keep things as they are rather than for change.

This is where the debate starts.
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But wouldnt/shouldnt politicians all be liberals if they represent the whole country? As a single person i can agree with you, you might just need to think about yourself and your success, but a politician, especially the president, needs to act in the favor of the general public.
Im not saying this as a discussion on who is better, liberals or republicans or whatnot, this is generally saying that the definition of a liberal contains many positiv aspects that should basically be the norm anyway.
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Well you say that, and believe me, I'm with YOU on this.

However, not everyone believes that being Liberal IS in the favour of the general public.

There are many politicos (and people voting for them) who want things to stay the same, and who DON'T want to break with tradition, and who DON'T think that ALL VIEW POINTS should be given equal standing.

Remember Liberals Generally campain for CHANGE. No change can Benefit EVERYONE, there'll always be someone's nose out of joint.
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The term "liberal" has nothing to do with those who now call themselves "Progressives."

The "change" desired by the Progressives are one of ever-more centralized (federal) government control. Progressives desire the redistribution of wealth by force. Progressives want to punish achievement. Progressives believe in genetic selection. Progressives believe that your children are wards of the state.


Today's progressives, like those who came before them, are fascists. They believe in the same types of socialistic "solutions" as did Mussolini and Hitler.

The term "liberal" was originally used to describe someone who believes in a small federal government, constitutional law, honest money and major political power being retained by the various states. Thus the term "Jeffersonian Liberal."

There is nothing "liberal" about Progressives. Nothing.
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The word "liberal" has been so vilified by the consolidated corporate media that it no longer resembles any dictionary definition as such. In the MSM, liberal is synonymous with jerk, asshole, moron, communist, etc. The biggest laugh is hearing about how terrible the "Liberal Media" is when 90% or more of the message available is conservative corporate propaganda, like that spewed on FOX NEWS.

It is under conservative republican rule that corporations have come to dominate government, being viewed by republicans as having all the qualities of personhood. Lobbyists make love to McSame 24/7. Obama is not free of them, but he is not in bed with them nearly to the same degree.
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There nothing wrong with being a liberal. Bless em' all.
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We do not live in a Democracy; we live in a Republic. We are bound by rule of law and that law is the Constitution. We are not bound to "Mob Rule"...we adhere to the Constitution. That is what our nation is founded upon. Want change? Volunteer your house or services to those less fortunate than yourself. Want change as law? Have the states ratify and pass an amendment.
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I consider myself a Conservative and I resent that you equate Conservatism to Republicans. If I'm mistaken, please explain and I will be more than happy to retract this statement.
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The term "liberal" has nothing to do with those who now call themselves "Progressives."

The "change" desired by the Progressives are one of ever-more centralized (federal) government control. Progressives desire the redistribution of wealth by force. Progressives want to punish achievement. Progressives believe in genetic selection. Progressives believe that your children are wards of the state.


Today's progressives, like those who came before them, are fascists. They believe in the same types of socialistic "solutions" as did Mussolini and Hitler.

The term "liberal" was originally used to describe someone who believes in a small federal government, constitutional law, honest money and major political power being retained by the various states. Thus the term "Jeffersonian Liberal."

There is nothing "liberal" about Progressives. Nothing.
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