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Old 06-24-2008, 01:02 PM
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he has been a long term smoker for a while but he pretty much quit since starting his campaign
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that pic has been proven to be false... ill try and find it. Cigarette Smoking Obama = Bad President or just Propaganda?, page 1
Of course it could be fake. If it's proven to be so, then I disavow it.

I just checked out the site. It looks like a fake.

I said I had no problem with the man if he's a smoker. But I have to wonder why there has been an embargo on the fact that he was/is a smoker. Remember Watergate? It was not the burglary that brought Nixon down, it was the cover up.
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Old 06-24-2008, 06:58 PM
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Oh no, Johnnyorganic, dont get me wrong... i wasnt trying to defend him at all. He IS a liar, i never trusted him. I started bashing him after the whole "Im not a member of the CFR" quote, yet he elected Jim Johnson and Zbigniew Brzezinski.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
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Whether or not he is a smoker is not the real issue here.
The real problem with Obama, is the fact that he wants to be the president of our country but he won't even acknowledge and solute the flag.
Millions of people have died defending the flag, so for him to disrespect those people by not saluting it...well, I just have a hard time supporting a man claiming to be patriotic in his commercials, then turns around and gets caught on camera just standing their like a bump on a stump as everyone else is saying the pledge of allegiance to the flag.
I still haven't heard him explain him self on that...have y'all?
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:07 AM
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Whether or not he is a smoker is not the real issue here.
The real problem with Obama, is the fact that he wants to be the president of our country but he won't even acknowledge and solute the flag.
Millions of people have died defending the flag, so for him to disrespect those people by not saluting it...well, I just have a hard time supporting a man claiming to be patriotic in his commercials, then turns around and gets caught on camera just standing their like a bump on a stump as everyone else is saying the pledge of allegiance to the flag.
I still haven't heard him explain him self on that...have y'all?
Oh, and I'll bet you are still wondering if he is really a muslim after all. Ignorance is bliss my friend.
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:39 AM
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Obama doesn't give two shits about legalizing marijuana...or our country, or our flag.

And remember- his wife was NEVER proud to be an American until her husband found himself within reach of the White house. Blech.
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:54 AM
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Hell i consider myself a patriot also, but even I refuse to salute the flag. The america we live in today is not the America it was 20 years ago. Hell we have the right to vote, but no one to vote for! America used to stand for freedom... now it stands for capitalism. i dont like that... i like the freedom thing. when it returns back to the people i shall salute the flag. till then... BURN THAT BITCH.
and dont hate me... thats protected by this thing called FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
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Hell i consider myself a patriot also, but even I refuse to salute the flag. The america we live in today is not the America it was 20 years ago. Hell we have the right to vote, but no one to vote for! America used to stand for freedom... now it stands for capitalism. i dont like that... i like the freedom thing. when it returns back to the people i shall salute the flag. till then... BURN THAT BITCH.
and dont hate me... thats protected by this thing called FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
Don't confuse the flag with the situation our country is in, or the people that have screwed things up. Look at the flag as everything our country SHOULD be.

Does the flag tell people to be lazy and appathetic, and to stop holding their elected officials accountable for the things they do ? No.

Does the flag whisper in their ears and tell them it's easier to stay home and NOT VOTE? No.

Does the flag proclaim that things are so screwed up that it is impossible to fix them? No.

People have no problem building their own walls. Keep the flag out of it.
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the flag... REPRESENTS YOUR COUNTRY. thats what a flag's purpose is. right now our country sucks. and we cant get people to get up and change shit because they are so DOCILE. hell some are so brainwashed they think that if you dont support the flag, you hate america.

shamegame can i ask you who youre voting for?
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Until I see the Military Industrial Complex go up in mushroom clouds and until we stop our quest for imperial conquest of the world, I see no problem in burning american flags



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