I saw the documentary. It's really not news that there is no scientific proof that human made CO2 emissions are causing the warming trend which sits about 2 degrees higher since 1950 or so. Overall environmental damage such as holes in the ozone layer or slash and burning rain forest or other ecosystem destruction have much more concrete findings.

However the trend of biased documentaries seems to be growing equally as fast as side industries. While global warming is not proven it is an accepted theory. What happens when we prove it's real? Will it be too late then?

I believe that's what is the foundation of environmental protectionism on the global scale. People don't want to risk the chance that the theory is correct, because change does not happen over night.

The marauding political and capitalist efforts will always exist where there is an opportunity. In other words Global Warming isn't a swindle but people are exploiting ignorance for personal gain.

Gore's film is being shown in our middle and high schools now and is being presented as the absoulte truth. Students are graded down if they disagree or raise anti-global warming points. Its nothing but propaganda. If you have children in school, be sure to examine their text books and classroom agendas for socialistic/Marxist leanings ... then take appropriate actions.

Vi

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Just to make this point. GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL AND PROVEN. What is in dispute is whether man has played a part in this accelerated warming we are witnessing today.

Indeed, we agree completely skunky, but there is loads of evidence which suggests that this warming trend, so eagerly described as "Global Warming", is, from a historical perspective, wimpy!
Grapes were grown in Greenland not too long ago (geologically speaking)....can't grow grapes there now.... (Yet)?

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1500 years ago the south of England was famous for it's wine and vineyards. Global Warming will not have that much of an impact for us living in a mild climate.

We may not be able to do anything about it, but this doesn't mean it isn't going to be devestating for the human race. Heat waves, floods, tornadoes etc. All are killers and all are going to escalate in respect to damage caused and lives lost. If anything this global warming debate should at least make people aware that the future holds a climate that, for all we know, could be spiralling out of control for good. There is a larger danger ahead, and we have virtually no defenses against it. Our old ways are no good, sea defences need to be reconstructed in many parts of the world. I have a favourite saying that I always say when I have to spend money... you have to speculate to accumulate. In other words (when I say it) you need to spend money to make money. We need to spend money on defences now to save spending however many times the amount on repairing the damage caused should we choose to ignore the threat.

Here's my take on it: we can all agree that we're polluting mother earth at a faster rate than ever b4 in her history. Even if u don't think global warming is real, can u at least agree that all of this man-made pollution can't help the planet? There's no doubt we're fucking up the planet, even if global warming isn't happening now something bad will happen eventually if society doesn't change. The ppl backing global warming r just pushing for a healthier way of living and a healthier environment, what's wrong with that?

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So we agree that there have been warming periods in the planets past which were more severe than the relatively small temperature increases leading to the dire scenario depicted above.

I do not follow your logic, because if the warming cycles in the past DID NOT precipitate the severe and destructive storms you refer to, and if the planet has undergone dozens of such cycles of warming and cooling, why and how do you insist that this is the "killer" warm cycle?
It seems to me that these cycles are the natural order of the planet, and I fail to see why this particular cycle is the one that will “devastate” the human population.





This is interesting:

Global warming on trial
Sixth-graders decide that humans aren’t to blame
LongmontFYI - Global warming on trial

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Sure, I doubt anybody would disagree that humans are polluting the earth iblazethatkush.

"The ppl backing global warming r just pushing for a healthier way of living and a healthier environment, what's wrong with that?"

What's wrong with that is it's not true. Some people are looking for a healthier environment and some people are looking for $$$$.

I'll give you an example. There are NO readily available alternative fuel motor vehicles available in the commercial markets. High fuel economy technology has been available sense the 1950s ( see Tucker). In a 2006 documentary called "Who killed the electric car?" Who Killed the Electric Car? (2006), the film discusses at length the successful pilot of an electric car, this program was implemented over 10 years ago.

what could be more easy to regulate than higher fuel economy cars or selling more electric cars? Both things have been squashed by industry and politicians in lew of some other snake oil with smoke and mirrors.

[quote=Wavels;81132]So we agree that there have been warming periods in the planets past which were more severe than the relatively small temperature increases leading to the dire scenario depicted above.

I do not follow your logic, because if the warming cycles in the past DID NOT precipitate the severe and destructive storms you refer to, and if the planet has undergone dozens of such cycles of warming and cooling, why and how do you insist that this is the "killer" warm cycle?
It seems to me that these cycles are the natural order of the planet, and I fail to see why this particular cycle is the one that will “devastate” the human population.

Not so devestating for cooler climate countries... Also 1500 years ago at the peak of the last warming there was not the populace there is today. No cities, at least not what we'd think of as cities today. More people equals more deaths, whereas a village may have been wiped out before this time it could be a small city. This is my logic..................

That is an excellent response which I can understand quite clearly....and I am wicked stoned at the moment...
Thanks, Skunky, although I suspect you are overly pessimistic, I can't deny that I read somewhere years ago that all successful ancient civilizations learned NOT to locate major important cities too close to coastlines...
And our "modern" culture allows a New Orleans to exist and flourish below sea level!

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