so, where is all of our income tax going? is it really paying for what the government wants us to think it is? not according to the 1984 Grace commision report. Grace Commission Report (PPSS)

this is a direct quote from the report that was written for Ronald Regan,
With two-thirds of everyone's personal income taxes wasted or not collected, 100 percent of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal debt and by Federal Government contributions to transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services which taxpayers expect from their Government.

so there we have it, the government admits to waisting 100% of your income tax! why aren't people aware of this? I have no fucking idea.

alot of people argue that, that was in 1984 and that it has probably changed since then, wouldnt the government be screaming this from the whitehouse rooftop if it were true? wouldn't they use that as a "trump card"?

whats going on here? are we really this dumb and gullible? or do we just not want to believe?

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Its not surprising, thats all. The taxes that directly affect you are simply the local taxes that deal with road construction, state wages, park services, ect. The income tax goes directly to the federal government, what did you expect them to do with that money? It goes into paying debt or building B-2s or something of the sort.

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Am I supposed to have some sort of disclaimer here?

I expected them to waist it but it seems most people say look what your tax dollars are going to ie war, educating illegal immigrants and and that other god stuff people like to think their paying for. and lots of people say I'm a taxpayer like that proves somthing or that their good people. if you ask me their dumb people giving money away that they dont have to!!!

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Yep it goes to paying the debts down to the central banks. Ie. the Federal reserve, which is a privately run company. Only immigrants and offshore business owners are to pay income taxes. Taxation on american citizens is unconstitutional. But these days that means squat.

I know all of that, I chose not to go that deep, and there is a way to get away without paying income tax unfortunatly its too late for most people on this site
I think people need to see for themselves that their money is being thrown away, because before when I told them with nothing backing me obody believed me :P
but I think realizing that is one of the first steps to tax freedom, but alot of people dissagre with me

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You think the fathers knew that we would one day become everything they were against?...
Having to look one of the fathers in the eyes and explain myself,let alone my maker: What a shameful, dreadful thought.

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"I suppose I always knew America would eventually break the planet, like some ghastly, hyperactive toddler that gets hold of a mobile phone and then smashes it repeatedly against the edge of a table". Quote from british journalist.

Med, Your brilliant insights, astounding prose, political acumen and your all around affability are just simply amazing.

Vi

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"I suppose I always knew America would eventually break the planet, like some ghastly, hyperactive toddler that gets hold of a mobile phone and then smashes it repeatedly against the edge of a table". Quote from british journalist.

Most of you who post here have never sent a check into the IRS at tax time. That's because you have your taxes automatically deducted from each paycheck ... and most of you pay in more than you owe, so you get a refund, right? Well, those of us who are independent contractors send our own taxes in via personal checks. If you were to check the returned check and look on the back, you'd see that the check is cancelled, not by the Treasury Department, but by the Federal Reserve Bank.


The IRS is nothing more than the collection department for the Federal Reserve Bank.
The income tax goes to pay the interest on the national debt. It is not happenstance that the 16th Amendment and the Federal Reserve Act was passed in the same year ... 1913.

Americans need to wake up to the fact that we have a socialized monetary system. Money is in the control of the government. That is anti-liberty and anti-freedom. In a truly free society, the citizens have control of the money through a private banking system and money backed by precious metals.

The road back to liberty in this country is to take back the control of money and put it into private hands.

Here's an excellent read. The Author is Alan Greenspan, circa 1966.

http://www.usagold.com/gildedopinion/greenspan.html

Vi

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