im not saying your post wasnt true i was just saying nobody is truly "compassionate" unless they walk the walk. and i mean walk all the way to the edge, not just walk a little then have the right to say you are compassionate. cuz the very fact that you leave stones unturned when you have the means to turn them in Uncompassionate, specially since under those stones are innocence and agony.

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I never asked for or recieved one red cent from the government with the exception of some college on the GI Bill and my first house on a VA loan.
These assholes currently in the white house are cutting benefits to the returning vets. It is harder for an Iraq vet to recieve the same medical that I have, insane. These guys have been through some shit and need some compensation, they sacrificed, now it's the government's time to give back. Instead of giving millionaire farmers crop subsidies, give returning vets medical and some college benefits. BTW I took a couple of years off and went on a sabbatical to central AZ, lived in a commune and loved life, Lots of free love and drugs, Pot, mushrooms, LSD, Peyote, the perfect foursome.

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Just start with the TITLE of thread its a out right LIE and it was YOU that told this LIE, and YOU LIED to your fellow smokers who some of which are in your own words are your friends.
All of the threads of yours that I have read [that I remember] were formed to mislead, misinform and propagandize.

You say that you understand a lot more than I think. I say that only makes it worse and I have noted that you are smart enough to spin. Not that you really know what I think.
I will say that I think med knows more and understands as much as you do. The difference is med is just more free wheeling and doesn't give that much of a shit about what he says and your just more anal about it.

When you care so little for your friends as to lie and propagandize them. I think that being a friend of yours has little meaning.

I ask you WHY do you think that I assume anything about you as I have little need for that, the facts speak for themselves!

You assault the truth with your stupid threads and I had raither you attack me, so if you wish you can attack me all you want and I will not defend myself in any way at all, if you stop posting in your propaganda threads and cease starting new ones.

As for Vi and you being friends, Vi is a nice guy and I am his friend [not that he knows this] and I even kind of like Med not that I think he cares are would believe it.

Now you should know what I think and why I do as I do, or at least a little.

I also think your a whining little baby pussy for thinking that I had attacked in a unreasonable way, after the crap that you spread around.......

Its hard to imagine people more "conservative" than members of the Catholic Church I attend, or the students of the Catholic schools around here. One thing they pride themselves in is their community service. The students are REQUIRED, as a condition of graduation, to dedicate a certain amount of hours to community service before they can graduate. The vast majority of their students donate FAR more hours than what's required. Part of that community service includes feeding the homeless, visiting and caring for the elderly ... and making that yearly trip down into Mexico to build houses for the poor.

Its hard to imagine a more conservative group than the Realty Association I belong to and my office in particular.

We have raised MILLIONS for Easter Seals over the years through various events INCLUDING just basic knocking on doors asking for donations.

Another thing we are COLLECTIVELY big on is collecting food for Manna. This is food that feeds the poor and those who are temporarily down on their luck.

At Christmas time, the Toys for Tots bins are chock-full of toys that we COLLECTIVELY gather for the Marine Corps.

To say that conservatives are not compassionate is just an ignorant statement. Totally ignorant.

Our compassion comes from the efforts WE put into it ourselves. That's quite different than the "compassion" of the Left ... where their "compassion" comes from the point of a gun, held at the heads of others, while the money is extracted against the will of the people.

Dank, when will you liberals understand that forced charity isn't charity at all. Its nothing but theft, pure and simple.

Vi

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Going to the VA for anything medical I wouldn't do on a bet. My dad did use it a bit though I would have paid for him just so wouldn't. I don't have a high opinion of them.
I did get a bit of medical care while I was in and a could say bit about that, but it wasn't that bad.
I also had some college after I got out and I did think about using the bill, but not much.

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Originally Posted by medicineman These guys have been through some shit and need some compensation, they sacrificed, now it's the government's time to give back. Instead of giving millionaire farmers crop subsidies, give returning vets medical and some college benefits. BTW I took a couple of years off and went on a sabbatical to central AZ, lived in a commune and loved life, Lots of free love and drugs, Pot, mushrooms, LSD, Peyote, the perfect foursome.

Bush killed the bill, but it will be sent back to him.

I took off a week and went to work but after a few a while I went to tucson and ran pot across from nogales, made a lot of money but in a little less than a year I knew that the time was coming for me to fall so I quit and split.
I never liked mushrooms that well, though I did do them some a few times a year I would pick some. boil and mix with it lemon koolade and go around turning on whoever wanted some.
I have stayed in a commune a few times and have had free love a few times as I was always horney. But I couldn't really get totally into the hippy thing not that I didn't try, it just wasn't my thing. The best LSD that I ever had was in tucson in 70 it was a microdot that was white with very very small purple spots a friend woke me and said take this and I did not thinking that I had setup a camp next to a friend who lived in his tent, he came by to get me and I was peaking or wouldn't have went [the road was to bad for my car] and I went as we were on the way it started to rain and each drop was a different color , when we got there my friend went to bed and I set in my tent by myself in a bad storm the wind was gusting 30+miles an hour pegs came out and the tent would lay over then come mostly back up I had a flashlight and a big sandcandle, you can believe me when I say that it was a very long night. I'm sure you know the storms can be out there and the LSD was at least as strong as any 5 microdot or sunshine that I ever done, I always did 2 or 3 of the best. Drugs were sure cheep back then and there if you ever got down to tucson you may remember sabeno canyon [thats not how its spelled] that was a nice place, I wander if you could even get in the water now. Some good times back then.
Peace out.

There is little doubt that conservatives give a lot more. I have seen this with my own eyes. I have given myself in a lot of ways and still do, not just money but my time also.

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Yes I agree there was something very sinister about that.
I don't follow the news as I find it too depressing but I do watch 60 minutes and the 5th estate and similar shows. I did watch that and it didn't even surprise me. I knew there was way more going on that they didn't want the general public knowing about.
The guy is in a class room of grade school kids with he gets the info and just sits there dumbfounded and carries on with the story he's reading to the kids.

Hello!

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Hehheh.. Um.. ok, I'll say it. This is government owned and managed health care. How would you like yours served?

I'd put up a laughing smiley, but this shit isn't so funny.

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